Bill Gates : An apology

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Re: Bill Gates : An apology

Post by Atheist-Lite » Thu Jul 12, 2012 12:30 pm

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Tyrannical wrote:Family Planning is too little too late for some of those countries, and extreme measures like in China may soon be needed to prevent a mass future famine.
A once a century string of bad harvests and you are looking at death tolls in the hundreds of millions by 2050.
It happens with mice, locust and jellyfish.
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Re: Bill Gates : An apology

Post by mistermack » Thu Jul 12, 2012 12:43 pm

Elessarina wrote:Also.. you owe him another.. he's be running a foundation for years for innoculations of children in third world countries

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13742928
I knew that, so I've never said otherwise.

The reason I posted this thread is that the UK government announced yesterday that they are doubling their contribution of £80 million for family planning in the third world to £160 million, and they are doing it in conjunction with the Gates Foundation. That is serious money, and deserves to be applauded.
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Re: Bill Gates : An apology

Post by MrJonno » Thu Jul 12, 2012 12:56 pm

Microsoft HQ have had a statue of the Flying Spaghetti Monster put up, not sure if it is still there but BG is no friend of religion bar his noodlyness
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Re: Bill Gates : An apology

Post by macdoc » Thu Jul 12, 2012 12:57 pm

Three apologies - unlike the OP he recognizes reality on AGW and the associated risks.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bill-gate ... 30699.html

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Meaningful reductions in carbon emissions, Gates argued, would also necessitate smarter policy on the part of the government. He said that the inability to put in place a carbon tax, or at least a future carbon tax, was the “single greatest failure” of the U.S. policymakers. When his interlocutor, Alan Murray, deputy managing editor of the Wall Street Journal, asked Gates the odds of Congress ever passing a carbon tax, Gates replied, “It depends on the IQ of the American people.”
http://www.independent.com/news/2012/ma ... ng-goleta/

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Re: Bill Gates : An apology

Post by Atheist-Lite » Thu Jul 12, 2012 1:02 pm

If he was serious he'd use his pivotal role at microsoft to derail the US economy. :smoke:
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Re: Bill Gates : An apology

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Thu Jul 12, 2012 2:00 pm

Crumple wrote:
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Tyrannical wrote:Family Planning is too little too late for some of those countries, and extreme measures like in China may soon be needed to prevent a mass future famine.
A once a century string of bad harvests and you are looking at death tolls in the hundreds of millions by 2050.
It happens with mice, locust and jellyfish.
Mice can really get out of hand before it happens. They've got smart with all those mazes the labcoats have put'em through. :smoke:
Yeah, and humans get lost in cornfield mazes all the damn time. :fp:
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Re: Bill Gates : An apology

Post by hadespussercats » Thu Jul 12, 2012 2:19 pm

Crumple wrote:If he was serious he'd use his pivotal role at microsoft to derail the US economy. :smoke:
Yes, that would be the intelligent solution for any American businessman.
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Re: Bill Gates : An apology

Post by Atheist-Lite » Thu Jul 12, 2012 2:35 pm

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Crumple wrote:If he was serious he'd use his pivotal role at microsoft to derail the US economy. :smoke:
Yes, that would be the intelligent solution for any American businessman.
For any conscientious one but that would be a contradiction in terms. Better to kill the poor abroad than kill the gas emissions at home...hey? :smoke:
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Re: Bill Gates : An apology

Post by mistermack » Thu Jul 12, 2012 3:04 pm

macdoc wrote:Three apologies - unlike the OP he recognizes reality on AGW and the associated risks.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bill-gate ... 30699.html

and
Meaningful reductions in carbon emissions, Gates argued, would also necessitate smarter policy on the part of the government. He said that the inability to put in place a carbon tax, or at least a future carbon tax, was the “single greatest failure” of the U.S. policymakers. When his interlocutor, Alan Murray, deputy managing editor of the Wall Street Journal, asked Gates the odds of Congress ever passing a carbon tax, Gates replied, “It depends on the IQ of the American people.”
http://www.independent.com/news/2012/ma ... ng-goleta/

you do get a few things wrong MM - try examining your other assumptions... :coffee:
If I was to debate the merits of Bill Gates, I would find out the facts first.
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Anyway, you must be going for the derail record. Do you post this crap on other threads because everybody is ignoring your bullshit when you post it where it belongs?
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Re: Bill Gates : An apology

Post by Elessarina » Thu Jul 12, 2012 3:55 pm

I thought he'd given something like ten billion for inoculations

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Re: Bill Gates : An apology

Post by redunderthebed » Thu Jul 12, 2012 4:16 pm

Yeah when you get a self-serving bitch like Gina Rinehart who have more money that they know what to do with want more of it and don't care about what bodies end up on the side of the road because of it then it kinda makes you think bill gates isn't such a bad bloke and at least he isnt a frothing at the mouth right-winger like Gina Rinehart. :prof:
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Re: Bill Gates : An apology

Post by cupper3 » Thu Jul 12, 2012 5:01 pm

Bill may be an atheist (I have no way of knowing) but Melinda is Catholic and at odds with her church on birth control.

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  • Gates, a longtime advocate for women’s health issues has been vocal in her support of contraceptive resources for women despite her Catholic beliefs; in an interview that aired on CNN on Sunday, she said it had become her lifetime’s work. Her Gates foundation has long refused to fund programs that support abortion. “I had to wrestle with which pieces of religion do I use and believe in my life, what would I counsel my daughters to do,” she explained to Newsweek of her decision to support other contraceptive methods. Additionally she feels that “we’re not serving the other piece of the Catholic mission, which is social justice” by barring women from birth control alternatives.
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Re: Bill Gates : An apology

Post by Atheist-Lite » Thu Jul 12, 2012 6:07 pm

He made his money selling crap software so it stands to reason he's a guilty conscience and wants to do a bit of good with his ill gotten gains. I'd question whether his fascination with curbing third world population growth is altogether the act of a healthy worldview, and altruistic myself. :smoke:
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Re: Bill Gates : An apology

Post by Jason » Thu Jul 12, 2012 6:34 pm

As a student I held myself in diametric opposition to all things Microsoft and burned Bill Gates in effigy each full moon. Now that I'm older I think he's not such an evil person - i.e. my frame of reference has widened considerably.

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Re: Bill Gates : An apology

Post by Elessarina » Thu Jul 12, 2012 6:40 pm

Apparently he's spent $6 billion on vaccines so far

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