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Re: Discworld Day 2

Post by amok » Wed Sep 21, 2011 12:57 am

Feck wrote:Matt is saying he is Cohen the Barbarian .
Yes, I know. But why?
It may be true that the law cannot make a man love me, but it can keep him from lynching me, and I think that's pretty important.
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Re: Discworld Day 2

Post by Feck » Wed Sep 21, 2011 1:09 am

amok wrote:
Feck wrote:
r.c wrote:
Feck wrote:RC you make the assumption that there are scum on the Mantis BW ..Why ?
To hide in the numbers may be or to start the bw. Initially I thought there would have been 2 scum in the bw but since Ob was Nk'd I think there is only one. Ok a lot of talk about me being fixated on Mantis bw. I feel that voting patterns are the biggest clue in trying to identify scum. That is the only tangible thing that I can work on. Trying to judge a player's alignment by gauging their response to questions is not something I'm good at.
but if the lynch was going through anyway then Scum would have avoided the BW like the plague ! scum don't want to be seen on town lynching BWs
That would sort of clear Barnett and Ksen. And since I know I'm Town, that only leaves Irre.

I just can't wrap my head around Irre bringing up the win condition thing as Scum, especially since it was so, well, you know.
the win condition thing is a bust as we have no way of knowing if scum knew towns PM or if different people got different win conditions ....
just for the record Mine did not actually give a win condition for town it said I was town and I would win with town but no mention of how town would win (ie it did not say "when all threats to town are eliminated" or "when all scum are dead" ..BUT I don't think Irre scum would have used the win condition thing on day one :dunno:
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Post by Magicziggy » Wed Sep 21, 2011 1:26 am

amok wrote:
Linus wrote:
amok wrote:
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Feck wrote: read the OP again ..slowly .
Explain. For example, how do you interpret "you think you may have spotted the cause of the missing landscape; a filthy old piece of luggage"?
Is that question for Feck or for me?
It's a question for Feck, but it will do no harm if others answer.
OK. I'm going to answer why I'm quite sure that Oblivion was killed by Scum, but on re-thinking I understand why people might have thought UT made himself a bomb. As I said, I haven't read the books, so the first thing I did was check this site:

http://wiki.lspace.org/wiki/The_Luggage

...which says, among other things:
... the Luggage often just tears through a place leaving a wake of destruction and completely swallowing everything in its path...
That, combined with Zigmen's use of the phrase "the cause of the missing landscape" strongly suggests to me that Oblivion ate UT (and a chunk of the road). And that Oblivion was killed by Scum. They'd only have known at that point that she wasn't Scum, and Oblivion would be way high on the list of get-rid-ofs for any sensible Scum team.

I had immediately put KSen, Mattshizzle and MZ on my Scum list for pushing the "no Scum kill" theory, but I'm backing off from that now because I see where it was coming from.
I didn't push the theory. It was fresh insight and I consider a plausible option. Not wifom.

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Post by Magicziggy » Wed Sep 21, 2011 1:27 am

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Post by Magicziggy » Wed Sep 21, 2011 1:30 am

Feck wrote:
but if the lynch was going through anyway then Scum would have avoided the BW like the plague ! scum don't want to be seen on town lynching BWs
I think it is an individual thing. And I think that is what most scum tend to do. not all

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Re: Discworld Day 2

Post by r.c » Wed Sep 21, 2011 1:37 am

Feck wrote:
amok wrote:
Feck wrote:
r.c wrote:
Feck wrote:RC you make the assumption that there are scum on the Mantis BW ..Why ?
To hide in the numbers may be or to start the bw. Initially I thought there would have been 2 scum in the bw but since Ob was Nk'd I think there is only one. Ok a lot of talk about me being fixated on Mantis bw. I feel that voting patterns are the biggest clue in trying to identify scum. That is the only tangible thing that I can work on. Trying to judge a player's alignment by gauging their response to questions is not something I'm good at.
but if the lynch was going through anyway then Scum would have avoided the BW like the plague ! scum don't want to be seen on town lynching BWs
That would sort of clear Barnett and Ksen. And since I know I'm Town, that only leaves Irre.

I just can't wrap my head around Irre bringing up the win condition thing as Scum, especially since it was so, well, you know.
the win condition thing is a bust as we have no way of knowing if scum knew towns PM or if different people got different win conditions ....
just for the record Mine did not actually give a win condition for town it said I was town and I would win with town but no mention of how town would win (ie it did not say "when all threats to town are eliminated" or "when all scum are dead" ..BUT I don't think Irre scum would have used the win condition thing on day one :dunno:
I got the same message. I didn't think there was anything weird in that. Isn't killing scum an implicit goal for town.Although It might be ambiguous wrt an indi/sk.

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Re: Discworld Day 2

Post by Feck » Wed Sep 21, 2011 1:41 am

Magicziggy wrote:
Feck wrote:
but if the lynch was going through anyway then Scum would have avoided the BW like the plague ! scum don't want to be seen on town lynching BWs
I think it is an individual thing. And I think that is what most scum tend to do. not all
Yep but my point was there is no good reason to suspect that there was scum on the BW ,there might have been or there might not .
In many games scum have watched town lynch town on day one and not jumped on the BW ( I don't think I have ever joined a BW to lynch town when i've been scum unless it was to rescue a team member and even that got me killed when I did it !) .

Also ,if I'm right ,It would suit scum to say that there must be some scum on the BW as it cast suspicion on town players.
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Post by Magicziggy » Wed Sep 21, 2011 1:49 am

I've previously stated that the bw us more for analyzing later, perhaps once the first scum is known. And I have listed 0 as a possible number on this particular one. Of more interest is irres disappearance. Hope she's ok. Not aware of any notice about her being away this long.

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Re: Discworld Day 2

Post by amok » Wed Sep 21, 2011 2:10 am

Feck, did you just set a trap?
It may be true that the law cannot make a man love me, but it can keep him from lynching me, and I think that's pretty important.
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Re: Discworld Day 2

Post by amok » Wed Sep 21, 2011 2:26 am

I think this is the vote tally:

Irre 1 - Gonzo
Linus 1 - Ksen
Shizzle 1 - Linus
Ksen 1- Barnett
RC 1 - Athene
It may be true that the law cannot make a man love me, but it can keep him from lynching me, and I think that's pretty important.
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Re: Discworld Day 2

Post by amok » Wed Sep 21, 2011 2:35 am

Magicziggy wrote:I've previously stated that the bw us more for analyzing later, perhaps once the first scum is known. And I have listed 0 as a possible number on this particular one. Of more interest is irres disappearance. Hope she's ok. Not aware of any notice about her being away this long.
I agree that's disturbing. And not in a Mafia way, just that it's so odd.
It may be true that the law cannot make a man love me, but it can keep him from lynching me, and I think that's pretty important.
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Re: Discworld Day 2

Post by amok » Wed Sep 21, 2011 2:54 am

Where is everyone? There's only an hour or so left, right?
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Re: Discworld Day 2

Post by Zigmen » Wed Sep 21, 2011 2:58 am

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Post by Magicziggy » Wed Sep 21, 2011 3:01 am

This should be an interesting hour or so. I think scum have voted. They won't want to be voting late in the piece. And not voting is scummy as well.

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Re: Discworld Day 2

Post by amok » Wed Sep 21, 2011 3:07 am

I know how I want to vote. I'm a little worried that I've misinterpreted something.
It may be true that the law cannot make a man love me, but it can keep him from lynching me, and I think that's pretty important.
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