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Re: Discworld Nightchat/Night 1

Post by Uselesstwit » Mon Sep 19, 2011 10:41 pm

I don't know dp, you seem to be assuming that scum would deliberately gang up on someone on day one. The only way I can see that happening is if they are trying to save on of their own. The only other two bw's with any steam behind them were mine and yours. Both of them were at less than half of what mantis had so I wouldn't expect a huge scum influence in yesterdays lynch. Most scum teams try not to be associated with each other in the early game.
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Re: Discworld Nightchat/Night 1

Post by Feck » Mon Sep 19, 2011 10:58 pm

Irre's clearness depends on if Zig gives out the town win condition to the scum team ... as there wasn't much of one I don't know if he would , also since I at least knew what Irre was hinting at .
Zig may have given out more than one win condition phrase ..... that's the problem with playing by role PM hints and why i've argued against it before .
Gonzo also has a point ,if there is a difference between the Vanilla town PMs and town Role PMs then outing your PM details can help scum hunt seers blockers etc .

BUT if Irre is town and all town got a similar PM then suspicion falls on people who could not see why she pointed out the lack of a real win condition .
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and scum would be fucking stupid to vote on the same town player on Day one , suspicion falls on people by their votes more than anything.

personally If I were scum wouldn't put a vote on a town player another scum player had ,on day one unless there was a Damned good reason to rescue an important team member from the lynch .Scum may be a team but they sure don't want to be seen to be acting in unison FFS .
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Re: Discworld Nightchat/Night 1

Post by oblivion » Mon Sep 19, 2011 11:04 pm

zigmen takes pride in handcrafting role pms. I expect our win conditions to be equivalent, but the words identical? not so much.

feck, you probably remember the win condition cluster fuck in zigmen's time bomb game.

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Re: Discworld Nightchat/Night 1

Post by amok » Mon Sep 19, 2011 11:38 pm

Feck wrote:Irre's clearness depends on if Zig gives out the town win condition to the scum team ... as there wasn't much of one I don't know if he would , also since I at least knew what Irre was hinting at .
Zig may have given out more than one win condition phrase ..... that's the problem with playing by role PM hints and why i've argued against it before .
Gonzo also has a point ,if there is a difference between the Vanilla town PMs and town Role PMs then outing your PM details can help scum hunt seers blockers etc .

BUT if Irre is town and all town got a similar PM then suspicion falls on people who could not see why she pointed out the lack of a real win condition.
Except Mantis didn't see it, either. My suspicion of her was mostly based, in fact, on that I thought she was Scum jumping on the chance to say the same thing I did, knowing I'd flip Town if lynched. I thought I'd be lynched for that, and I was also thinking Scum would think I'd be lynched for that. I'm surprised I wasn't.

Of course, I was wrong about Mantis. But I really did see nothing weird about my PM. It's being to click a bit now, but that's hindsight.
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Re: Discworld Nightchat/Night 1

Post by amok » Mon Sep 19, 2011 11:41 pm

Of course, I was wrong about Mantis. But I really did see nothing weird about my PM. It's being to click a bit now, but that's hindsight.
Typo: It's beginning to click...
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Re: Discworld Nightchat/Night 1

Post by Feck » Tue Sep 20, 2011 12:18 am

oblivion wrote:zigmen takes pride in handcrafting role pms. I expect our win conditions to be equivalent, but the words identical? not so much.

feck, you probably remember the win condition cluster fuck in zigmen's time bomb game.
I was trying to forget that game .
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Re: Discworld Nightchat/Night 1

Post by oblivion » Tue Sep 20, 2011 1:04 am

dude, that's like forgetting the Alamo or something.

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Re: Discworld Nightchat/Night 1

Post by Magicziggy » Tue Sep 20, 2011 1:14 am

On a :coffee: break
Uselesstwit wrote:I don't know dp, you seem to be assuming that scum would deliberately gang up on someone on day one. The only way I can see that happening is if they are trying to save on of their own. The only other two bw's with any steam behind them were mine and yours. Both of them were at less than half of what mantis had so I wouldn't expect a huge scum influence in yesterdays lynch. Most scum teams try not to be associated with each other in the early game.
I'm agreeing with this.

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Re: Discworld Nightchat/Night 1

Post by Magicziggy » Tue Sep 20, 2011 1:15 am

Feck wrote:Irre's clearness depends on if Zig gives out the town win condition to the scum team ... as there wasn't much of one I don't know if he would , also since I at least knew what Irre was hinting at .
Zig may have given out more than one win condition phrase ..... that's the problem with playing by role PM hints and why i've argued against it before .
Gonzo also has a point ,if there is a difference between the Vanilla town PMs and town Role PMs then outing your PM details can help scum hunt seers blockers etc .

BUT if Irre is town and all town got a similar PM then suspicion falls on people who could not see why she pointed out the lack of a real win condition .
..................................
and scum would be fucking stupid to vote on the same town player on Day one , suspicion falls on people by their votes more than anything.

personally If I were scum wouldn't put a vote on a town player another scum player had ,on day one unless there was a Damned good reason to rescue an important team member from the lynch .Scum may be a team but they sure don't want to be seen to be acting in unison FFS .
A lot of sense in this.

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Re: Discworld Nightchat/Night 1

Post by Magicziggy » Tue Sep 20, 2011 1:19 am

Note: I didn't see much in the clumping of votes stuff. Again, I guess you had to be there. There was no obvious rescue that I could see. A "Mantis is scum" meme spread quickly. I think an opportunist scum would have planted a vote though.

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Re: Discworld Nightchat/Night 1

Post by Magicziggy » Tue Sep 20, 2011 1:22 am

If shizzle shows up, someone lasso him and tie him to a tree.
Then be very nice.

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Re: Discworld Nightchat/Night 1

Post by oblivion » Tue Sep 20, 2011 1:36 am

He probably saw the thread size and bailed again.

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Re: Discworld Nightchat/Night 1

Post by Feck » Tue Sep 20, 2011 1:43 am

Magicziggy wrote:Note: I didn't see much in the clumping of votes stuff. Again, I guess you had to be there. There was no obvious rescue that I could see. A "Mantis is scum" meme spread quickly. I think an opportunist scum would have planted a vote though.
Oh I think it is likely that scum placed one vote only if another scum member had votes on them ,think why add your vote if you know they BW is on a player you know will flip town ?
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Re: Discworld Nightchat/Night 1

Post by oblivion » Tue Sep 20, 2011 1:56 am

Feck wrote:
Magicziggy wrote:Note: I didn't see much in the clumping of votes stuff. Again, I guess you had to be there. There was no obvious rescue that I could see. A "Mantis is scum" meme spread quickly. I think an opportunist scum would have planted a vote though.
Oh I think it is likely that scum placed one vote only if another scum member had votes on them ,think why add your vote if you know they BW is on a player you know will flip town ?
yeah...should see if I can dig up people who FoSed mantis earlier in the game, but went other directions as that final flurry of votes came in.

hmm.

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Re: Discworld Nightchat/Night 1

Post by amok » Tue Sep 20, 2011 2:03 am

Feck wrote:
Magicziggy wrote:Note: I didn't see much in the clumping of votes stuff. Again, I guess you had to be there. There was no obvious rescue that I could see. A "Mantis is scum" meme spread quickly. I think an opportunist scum would have planted a vote though.
Oh I think it is likely that scum placed one vote only if another scum member had votes on them ,think why add your vote if you know they BW is on a player you know will flip town ?
OK, I've read this a couple of times, and either I'm have a stupid moment or there's a typo I can't decipher. I don't understand what you're saying here, Feck.
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