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Post by Lozzer » Wed Sep 14, 2011 6:18 pm

Pappa wrote:
Lozzer wrote:Guess the robbers ethnicity
How many robbers were there?
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Re: US Philadelphia Student Carrying Legal Firearm Shoots It

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Wed Sep 14, 2011 6:20 pm

Lozzer wrote:
Pappa wrote:
Lozzer wrote:Guess the robbers ethnicity
How many robbers were there?
I have no apostrophe button. DA COMPUTA IS BROKE
"Guess the ethnicity of the robber." :whisper:
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Post by Lozzer » Wed Sep 14, 2011 6:23 pm

Gawdzilla wrote:
Lozzer wrote:
Pappa wrote:
Lozzer wrote:Guess the robbers ethnicity
How many robbers were there?
I have no apostrophe button. DA COMPUTA IS BROKE
"Guess the ethnicity of the robber." :whisper:
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Post by Seth » Wed Sep 14, 2011 6:56 pm

MrJonno wrote:Fantastic a mugging turns into a shoot out and thats considered a success!!
Better than an unsolved homicide with a 15-year old murderer running around loose. What I don't understand is simply charging the perp with aggravated assault instead of attempted murder. Any time a perp fires a weapon at a victim should be at a minimum attempted first degree murder.
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Post by Seth » Wed Sep 14, 2011 7:01 pm

Audley Strange wrote:Didn't deter the criminal nor stop the victim getting shot though.
Only because of bad tactical planning on the victim's part. If he'd been properly aware, he'd have taken action immediately when the perp tried to rob him (or preferably long before) by, for example, saying "Okay, don't hurt me, let me get my wallet" and producing his handgun instead. This gives him a significant advantage in the potentially ensuing gunfight.

But the point is that the fact that he had a handgun, and used it to good effect despite being wounded, kept the perp from shooting him again, and he wounded the perp, which means he's going to prison for a long time and won't be a danger to others. Pity he didn't get a better shot at the perp and drill him center-mass, but I forgive him for his marksmanship deficit since he'd just been shot in the stomach, which in most cases would make someone entirely unable to draw and fire.

I compliment him on his focus and determination and his under-stress marksmanship abilities. Two hits when even most cops would be luck to get one.
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Post by Seth » Wed Sep 14, 2011 7:02 pm

Audley Strange wrote:I did. Story is in essence... people with guns shoot each other.
Wrong. Story in essence: Innocent victim successfully defends himself and removes murderous robber from streets.
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Post by Seth » Wed Sep 14, 2011 7:05 pm

Feck wrote:OOOh as reported By ............. The Blaze SNORK twats ....
Now there's a particularly illucid response. Being deep in left-wing delusional hatred, you dismiss the story merely because the link to the original story and video, not from The Blaze, appear on The Blaze.

Any actual rational commentary on the probity of the actual story, or are you just ignorantly dismissing the value of the story and the lesson because you don't like the organization who (unlike many others) has the courage to publish examples of citizens lawfully using their firearms to defend themselves?
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Re: US Philadelphia Student Carrying Legal Firearm Shoots It

Post by Pappa » Wed Sep 14, 2011 8:39 pm

Gawdzilla wrote:
Lozzer wrote:
Pappa wrote:
Lozzer wrote:Guess the robbers ethnicity
How many robbers were there?
I have no apostrophe button. DA COMPUTA IS BROKE
"Guess the ethnicity of the robber." :whisper:
Anyway, I bet they were gay!
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Wed Sep 14, 2011 8:44 pm

Pappa wrote:
Gawdzilla wrote:
Lozzer wrote:
Pappa wrote:
Lozzer wrote:Guess the robbers ethnicity
How many robbers were there?
I have no apostrophe button. DA COMPUTA IS BROKE
"Guess the ethnicity of the robber." :whisper:
Anyway, I bet they were gay!
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Post by Tyrannical » Wed Sep 14, 2011 9:27 pm

Lozzer wrote:Guess the robbers ethnicity
:ask:
Philadelphia, 01:30 am, and a group of teenagers :zig:
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Post by mistermack » Wed Sep 14, 2011 9:44 pm

How come this is being reported as fact?
You've only got one version of what happened. Like who pulled a gun first, who started shooting.
No other witnesses are mentioned.

The student seems to be a bit of a loony himself, if he's sat outside with a gun.

Don't believe everything you read.
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Post by Svartalf » Wed Sep 14, 2011 9:48 pm

Loony? no, there's any number of things I never step outdoors without, if I had a permit, my gun would be among them.
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Post by Seth » Wed Sep 14, 2011 10:16 pm

mistermack wrote:How come this is being reported as fact?
You've only got one version of what happened. Like who pulled a gun first, who started shooting.
No other witnesses are mentioned.

The student seems to be a bit of a loony himself, if he's sat outside with a gun.

Don't believe everything you read.
Feel free to investigate further and get back to us. Until then, or until the story is corrected, I'll go with the existing reportage.

I find it interesting that you don't seem to have any problem accepting the news reports on things you favor, but you're skeptical of ones that disfavor your opinions.

I think that might be called "confirmation bias."
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Post by mistermack » Wed Sep 14, 2011 10:54 pm

Two people wounded in a gun fight. No other witnesses mentioned. There is every reason to doubt BOTH versions, till better evidence shows up. If the two have different versions, there is no reason to favour one over the other.
That's why I wrote, don't believe everything you read.
Seth wrote: Feel free to investigate further and get back to us. Until then, or until the story is corrected, I'll go with the existing reportage.
Why? There is no mention of independent witnesses. And it's FOX doing the reporting. I see no reason to believe or disbelieve any of it.
I suppose it's written, so you believe it, like any good christian.
Seth wrote: I find it interesting that you don't seem to have any problem accepting the news reports on things you favor, but you're skeptical of ones that disfavor your opinions.
I don't believe either version when two people have shot each other. I EXPECT people to lie in those circumstances.
Who is lying and who's telling the truth you sort out by evidence, not by website reporting.
Presumably the reporter wasn't there at the scene, yet he gives no account of how he knows what happened.
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