Slaughtering and eating cats (NSFW?)

[mistermack]

Unsanitary and standing in shit is disgusting morally as well as aesthetically.

That's odd. I didn't think you'd been to my place.

[lordpasternack]

Just saying…

I'm considering replying to all your posts that end with the smug and patronising and with this: and ... but that would be silly. Instead I'll just let you know I can do without your smug and patronising and at the end of every post if you're at all inclined to be engaging.

I didn't consider the to be smug and patronising - and is a bit more "meh"…

[Kristie]

Just saying…

I'm considering replying to all your posts that end with the smug and patronising and with this: and ... but that would be silly. Instead I'll just let you know I can do without your smug and patronising and at the end of every post if you're at all inclined to be engaging.

+1, thank you for putting it better than I ever could have!

[hadespussercats]

Earthworms are perfectly edible if soaked in water overnight, by the way.

Imagine people going through a fastfood drive-through and ordering a bucket of bugs and being asked "would you like worms with that?" ... "Oh, goody ... and supersize it, too! ".

I'd definitely eat that!

Reminds me of the street fair in China they filmed on "An Idiot Abroad."

I'm not into consciously eating bugs, but I can't logically support why. After all, I've eaten lobsters and crabs-- and they're basically like extra-big bugs that live in the sea.

[lordpasternack]

Just saying…

I'm considering replying to all your posts that end with the smug and patronising and with this: and ... but that would be silly. Instead I'll just let you know I can do without your smug and patronising and at the end of every post if you're at all inclined to be engaging.

+1, thank you for putting it better than I ever could have!

Well, like I said, I didn't think the smilies were smug or patronising. I also think it's such a red herring to respond to an otherwise coherent and well-made argument with a complaint about tone. Or rather, dismissing the argument on account of a bloody smiley right at the end, which you take issue with…

"Yeah, Richard, I'll maybe engage with you when you stop being so damn strident…"

And what if I don't want to engage with those who don't make substantive points, but just continually complain vaguely about tone and offence? I'm a woman of strong convictions, to be sure, but I don't just pluck my convictions out of my arse - I spend a lot of time thinking about them, and I am willing to defend them or change them in light of argument and evidence.

[charlou]

Just saying…

I'm considering replying to all your posts that end with the smug and patronising and with this: and ... but that would be silly. Instead I'll just let you know I can do without your smug and patronising and at the end of every post if you're at all inclined to be engaging.

+1, thank you for putting it better than I ever could have!

Well, like I said, I didn't think the smilies were smug or patronising. I also think it's such a red herring to respond to an otherwise coherent and well-made argument with a complaint about tone. Or rather, dismissing the argument on account of a bloody smiley right at the end, which you take issue with…

"Yeah, Richard, I'll maybe engage with you when you stop being so damn strident…"

And what if I don't want to engage with those who don't make substantive points, but just continually complain vaguely about tone and offence? I'm a woman of strong convictions, to be sure, but I don't just pluck my convictions out of my arse - I spend a lot of time thinking about them, and I am willing to defend them or change them in light of argument and evidence.

Please yourself, then. I was just saying.

As for your convictions .. emotiveness aside, I find them cogent, well argued and admirable ... the source is irrelevant.

[lordpasternack]

And I just want to add that I also like your spirit, Charlou. People can have vehement disagreements about things, raise each other's hackles, stick in each others' craws - without having to fall out over the matter. We're all people with sensibilities, strong opinions, vexations, norms and values etched into our minds - and one thing that I like about the atheist/skeptic community in general, and you in particular, is the valuing of dispute, debate, and the readiness not to fall out or cloud how we see a person in other contexs because of a particular dispute. 

I can be a tough old shit, and I think you can be, too - as well as compassionate, empathetic and everything else. You're one of the people in my vaguely conceived "Best of Rationalia" list, insofar as you've made me think about various issues, and reflect on things. You've taken me to task in the past, and criticised me, and I've valued it. 

And I do see how, in the heat of argument or irritation, certain things can come off smug and patronising when they weren't intended to be particularly. I take that point and I will avoid using those smilies in argument. 

[charlou]

Thanks ... and likewise, actually.

You're the second person to make a connecting comment at a time when I feel most like a spectator at a fucking circus ... but coming from the two of you, it means a lot.

[JimC]

Wherever I can, I choose to eat meat from animals that have been reared "free-range" rather than under factory conditions. Certainly, most sheep in Oz fall under that category, and you can buy free-range chickens; grass-fed beef tends to be the norm here as well...

Vegetarianism is a perfectly legitimate personal choice, so is omnivory; let's not lecture each other about our choices...

[Kristie]

Just saying…

I'm considering replying to all your posts that end with the smug and patronising and with this: and ... but that would be silly. Instead I'll just let you know I can do without your smug and patronising and at the end of every post if you're at all inclined to be engaging.

+1, thank you for putting it better than I ever could have!

Well, like I said, I didn't think the smilies were smug or patronising. I also think it's such a red herring to respond to an otherwise coherent and well-made argument with a complaint about tone. Or rather, dismissing the argument on account of a bloody smiley right at the end, which you take issue with…

"Yeah, Richard, I'll maybe engage with you when you stop being so damn strident…"

And what if I don't want to engage with those who don't make substantive points, but just continually complain vaguely about tone and offence? I'm a woman of strong convictions, to be sure, but I don't just pluck my convictions out of my arse - I spend a lot of time thinking about them, and I am willing to defend them or change them in light of argument and evidence.

It's just hard for me to take some seriously when their avatar pic is soft core porn and they use 'meh' smilies when trying to convey things they feel strongly about.

[lordpasternack]

Vegetarianism is a perfectly legitimate personal choice, so is omnivory; let's not lecture each other about our choices...

Is cannibalism a perfectly legitimate personal choice, would you say? And should I try to stick with consenting adults - or are humanely slaughtered, milk and rusks fed, organic babies alright?

[tattuchu]

For dinner I just jasmine rice cooked with a little olive oil and fresh ground pepper, and then a couple slices of cheddar over the top. And then I also sauteed some pistachio nuts, shallots, and mushrooms, and then added some fresh green beans with a little water and covered to steam until done.
I just had an orgasm in my pants.
And I didn't miss the meat one single goddamn bit

[lordpasternack]

Good for you, Tattuchu… Don't think that anyone is forcing you or judging you or anything - that you need to report back to anyone about how your vegetarianism, or flexitarianism, is going… But it's nice all the same to see someone expressing how easy and how tasty it can be to skip meat for some/all meals.

[JimC]

Vegetarianism is a perfectly legitimate personal choice, so is omnivory; let's not lecture each other about our choices...

Is cannibalism a perfectly legitimate personal choice, would you say? And should I try to stick with consenting adults - or are humanely slaughtered, milk and rusks fed, organic babies alright?

So, you are perfectly fine having a real dig at us meat eaters, but poor little vegetarians must never have their own warm and fuzzy choices questioned, the sensitive dears...

If very tasty aliens were discovered with a consciousness approaching humans, it would be wrong to eat them. Otherwise, I shall consume meat without the slightest shred of doubt, given reasonable animal husbandry techniques and instant killing methods.

[Robert_S]

Vegetarianism is a perfectly legitimate personal choice, so is omnivory; let's not lecture each other about our choices...

Is cannibalism a perfectly legitimate personal choice, would you say? And should I try to stick with consenting adults - or are humanely slaughtered, milk and rusks fed, organic babies alright?

So, you are perfectly fine having a real dig at us meat eaters, but poor little vegetarians must never have their own warm and fuzzy choices questioned, the sensitive dears...

If very tasty aliens were discovered with a consciousness approaching humans, it would be wrong to eat them. Otherwise, I shall consume meat without the slightest shred of doubt, given reasonable animal husbandry techniques and instant killing methods.

They would be non-human people and it would be much like cannibalism. You have to have their permission to eat them.