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Re: David Starkey?

Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Sat Aug 13, 2011 9:39 pm

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Re: David Starkey?

Post by mistermack » Sun Aug 14, 2011 1:14 pm

Psychoserenity wrote:Starkey's a funny one. I think he's usually right in what he's attempting to say - but the way he says it usually comes across as elitist racist cunt - almost to the extent that it's hard to believe he's not doing it on purpose.
Yes of course he is doing it on purpose. That's what I meant by professional cunt.
He does it on purpose, and that's what they pay him for. And it's carefully scripted to sound provocative, without technically being racist/elitist etc.
There is nothing spontaneous about it, it's all quite deliberate.
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Post by Audley Strange » Sun Aug 14, 2011 6:57 pm

Yup. He's another target specific provocative content generator. Least he gets paid, imagine being so pitiful as to do that as a hobby or for ones own satisfaction!
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Post by mistermack » Sun Aug 14, 2011 11:40 pm

Audley Strange wrote:Yup. He's another target specific provocative content generator. Least he gets paid, imagine being so pitiful as to do that as a hobby or for ones own satisfaction!
Money isn't everything. I get the impression he LOVES being the centre of attention, and would do it for nothing.

He's just lucky, to get paid doing what he enjoys.
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Re: David Starkey?

Post by Callan » Mon Aug 15, 2011 12:09 am

I have met David Starkey, and he is very aware of (and highly satisfied with) his media role as Establishment-Oriented Shit-Stirrer.

Getting his real opinion on something would be quite a challenge, however.

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Post by surreptitious57 » Mon Aug 15, 2011 12:25 am

mistermack wrote:
David Starkey is what I would call a professional cunt.
The tv companies get him in, when they need a cunt.
A debate with four reasonable people being reasonable is a bit boring to the brain-dead dummies watching, so they get in a complete cunt to stir it up.

And Starkey is your man. The most reliable cunt in England, and he does very well out of it.
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Re: David Starkey?

Post by mistermack » Mon Aug 15, 2011 12:32 am

surreptitious57 wrote:
mistermack wrote:
David Starkey is what I would call a professional cunt.
The tv companies get him in, when they need a cunt.
A debate with four reasonable people being reasonable is a bit boring to the brain-dead dummies watching, so they get in a complete cunt to stir it up.

And Starkey is your man. The most reliable cunt in England, and he does very well out of it.
There are a few from both sides of the political spectrum who are
deliciously provocative and none of them are cunts at all but all
are rather forceful in their opinions and long may they be so

Richard Littlejohn
George Galloway
Kelvin McKenzie
Peter Hitchens

Peter Tatchell
Nick Griffin
Jon Gaunt
Pair of cunts.
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Re: David Starkey?

Post by Atheist-Lite » Mon Aug 15, 2011 5:56 am

Starkey doesn't like homophobic crime orientated hip-hop and this was his chance to make a reasonable point. Their listening to evil jazz, not just jazz. The whites have turned black was in terms of culture, just the way he said it. And people latched onto the image of white people literally turning into black people becaue they are orientated towards the visual message these days. This is a generational gap rather than a class gap. He was making a fair point only that was lost in the poor choice of metaphor....looking constantly three moves ahead he lost the eight move ahead game, in a nine move ahead world. :smoke:
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Re: David Starkey?

Post by Atheist-Lite » Thu Aug 18, 2011 4:49 pm

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Re: David Starkey?

Post by Audley Strange » Sun Aug 21, 2011 8:22 pm

I've been thinking about this the last couple of days and wondered why the recent organised crime-spree did not spread to other towns and cities in England and nowhere it seems in Wales Scotland and N.I. (where as evinced earlier in the year, they're quite game to act like pricks).

Why did it not spread further? I'm wondering if it is not because that in these places we do have a class issue that is exacerbated by a form of gang culture influenced by the illusion of the O.G. mentality of the "get rich or die trying" type of gangsta rap. I'm not blaming rap, but consider it perhaps a coat of emulsion over increasing tensions in economic disparity, seeming harassment by police (add your own societal issue)

Certainly there are criminal gangs in every city, so why only these places I wonder? Do these areas have larger amounts of black youths than other cities and towns? Could this be a class thing exacerbated by race? Or are the kids there just more greedy and stupid?
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Re: David Starkey?

Post by HomerJay » Sun Aug 21, 2011 8:51 pm

Audley Strange wrote: Why did it not spread further?
There was a copper from Glasgow saying, in all seriousness, that it was pissing down and that kept people indoors.

Also the worst estates are out of town, away from shops and the affluent areas, so people would need to take a bus to go riotting.

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Re: David Starkey?

Post by Audley Strange » Sun Aug 21, 2011 9:01 pm

Your point is a very good one, but the cop was talking crap, I live in Glasgow city centre and on the Sunday and Monday the weather wasn't that bad and there were a lot of wee pricks wandering around clearly looking for someone to initiate something but it never came to anything.
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Re: David Starkey?

Post by Atheist-Lite » Sun Aug 21, 2011 9:32 pm

I would like to map the places where riots took place against where businesses are having a hard time. I know this city, it does have 'saturday night riots' on occasion like most places but was quiet on the week in question. Not like there isn't Twitter and Blackberrys along with a lot of lowlife in places around here...but maybe hailing shopowners are the missing ingredient, who'd benefit to see their shops looted/burnt out via insurance? :smoke:
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