E-petition to axe rioters' benefits
Re: E-petition to axe rioters' benefits
Who will define 'disabled', Coito ergo sum?
In my country, addiction is considered a disability and thus protected under Human Rights. 'Gangsta-pants' need only drink and drug more to qualify.
In my country, addiction is considered a disability and thus protected under Human Rights. 'Gangsta-pants' need only drink and drug more to qualify.
Re: E-petition to axe rioters' benefits
Tyrannical wrote:And, if that is not enough for basic food, clothing, and rent? What if that just makes them more unhappy and prone to riot? Could require some tough decisions.Cormac wrote:False choice.Tyrannical wrote:You only have three basic choices.
1: Let them starve
2: Force them to work
3: Keep giving them free money and benefits
For example - you could reduce the free money given to anyone convicted of criminal involvement in the recent riots and related crimes.
I was simply pointing out your logical fallacy.
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White collar crime is already seriously criminalised. Are you familiar at all with penalties for such crimes?Cunt wrote:I think if you were to force the government welfare cases to work, you could accomplish more than forcing the rioters to work. How many elected officials have been caught stealing from their boss, only to find excuses and keep on going?
I suggest an e-petition to criminalize white collar crime to the extent that this rioting and looting has been.
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Crumple wrote:All money is protection money. Any who think otherwise try building a harmonious society without it? Cough up or they riot. It is money to be spent on bread and circuses to keep the plebs from rioting. This is known from the times of old. Salt or assault. If you can't afford salt disband the legions and emigrate.
Are you proposing a society without "money"?
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Mhh. No paid work. No social security payments. What to do, what to do?Coito ergo sum wrote:Find a way to make money.Feck wrote:
and what do you think they are going to do with no money ?
Ah, yes, got it.
Looting.
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Re: E-petition to axe rioters' benefits
To be honest, no. I was thinking of the number of convictions. I don't see all that many.Cormac wrote:White collar crime is already seriously criminalised. Are you familiar at all with penalties for such crimes?Cunt wrote:I think if you were to force the government welfare cases to work, you could accomplish more than forcing the rioters to work. How many elected officials have been caught stealing from their boss, only to find excuses and keep on going?
I suggest an e-petition to criminalize white collar crime to the extent that this rioting and looting has been.
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There's what's against the law, and then there's crimes. I'm thinking of cases in the US where banks gave out loans on nothing more than the word of the person that they could afford it, and then sold that debt as some kind of safe investment. They didn't break the law, but I'm hard pressed to say it wasn't a crime.Cunt wrote:To be honest, no. I was thinking of the number of convictions. I don't see all that many.Cormac wrote:White collar crime is already seriously criminalised. Are you familiar at all with penalties for such crimes?Cunt wrote:I think if you were to force the government welfare cases to work, you could accomplish more than forcing the rioters to work. How many elected officials have been caught stealing from their boss, only to find excuses and keep on going?
I suggest an e-petition to criminalize white collar crime to the extent that this rioting and looting has been.
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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... pimping ... drugs ... weapons ... violent robberies ... harder crimes ... harsher penalties ... greater social/economic cost ... Sounds familiar ...Seraph wrote:Mhh. No paid work. No social security payments. What to do, what to do?Coito ergo sum wrote:Find a way to make money.Feck wrote:
and what do you think they are going to do with no money ?
Ah, yes, got it.
Looting.
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Well, it does still sadden me even though I know it is inevitable. The BNP have warned of this potential problem for years, and by ignoring them the potential problem gets worse and worse.Warren Dew wrote:Of course he loves it, as he feels he's being proven correct.Pensioner wrote:You love it don't you, you fucking B.N.P supporting shit.Tyrannical wrote:And, if that is not enough for basic food, clothing, and rent? What if that just makes them more unhappy and prone to riot? Could require some tough decisions.
Coito ergo sum wrote:Does Tyrannical in fact support the BNP?
Indeed.Warren Dew wrote:Tyrannical is an admitted white nationalist; why would he not support the BNP?
Though I've found Marine Le Pen and the French Front National a bit more promising these days. Can't ignore the gains made by the Swiss People's Party either.
I'm not a supremest, or a Nazi or anything like that though. I just beleive that ethnic tensions are inevitable under multiculturalism. I certainly don't want race riots, I just want the various races to be able to live peacefully together on the planet. It's just not possible in the same country.
A rational skeptic should be able to discuss and debate anything, no matter how much they may personally disagree with that point of view. Discussing a subject is not agreeing with it, but understanding it.
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Bollocks.Tyrannical wrote:It's just not possible in the same country.
Also, here it is again:
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It's not possible in the same country when too many people obsess over it.charlou wrote:Bollocks.Tyrannical wrote:It's just not possible in the same country.
Also, here it is again:
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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ARRRRGH! Whoever set that up spelled "lose" incorrectly.


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Off with their benefits!Thinking Aloud wrote:ARRRRGH! Whoever set that up spelled "lose" incorrectly.![]()

What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Re: E-petition to axe rioters' benefits
That's his point ... Stop obsessing over it ... Everyone.Robert_S wrote:It's not possible in the same country when too many people obsess over it.charlou wrote:Bollocks.Tyrannical wrote:It's just not possible in the same country.
Also, here it is again:
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