E-petition to axe rioters' benefits

[Cunt]

Who will define 'disabled', Coito ergo sum?

In my country, addiction is considered a disability and thus protected under Human Rights. 'Gangsta-pants' need only drink and drug more to qualify.

[Cormac]

You only have three basic choices.

1: Let them starve
2: Force them to work
3: Keep giving them free money and benefits

False choice.

For example - you could reduce the free money given to anyone convicted of criminal involvement in the recent riots and related crimes.

And, if that is not enough for basic food, clothing, and rent? What if that just makes them more unhappy and prone to riot? Could require some tough decisions.

I was simply pointing out your logical fallacy.

[Cormac]

I think if you were to force the government welfare cases to work, you could accomplish more than forcing the rioters to work. How many elected officials have been caught stealing from their boss, only to find excuses and keep on going?

I suggest an e-petition to criminalize white collar crime to the extent that this rioting and looting has been.

White collar crime is already seriously criminalised. Are you familiar at all with penalties for such crimes?

[Cormac]

All money is protection money. Any who think otherwise try building a harmonious society without it? Cough up or they riot. It is money to be spent on bread and circuses to keep the plebs from rioting. This is known from the times of old. Salt or assault. If you can't afford salt disband the legions and emigrate.

Are you proposing a society without "money"?

[Hermit]

and what do you think they are going to do with no money ?

Find a way to make money.

Mhh. No paid work. No social security payments. What to do, what to do?

Ah, yes, got it.

Looting.

[Cunt]

I think if you were to force the government welfare cases to work, you could accomplish more than forcing the rioters to work. How many elected officials have been caught stealing from their boss, only to find excuses and keep on going?

I suggest an e-petition to criminalize white collar crime to the extent that this rioting and looting has been.

White collar crime is already seriously criminalised. Are you familiar at all with penalties for such crimes?

To be honest, no. I was thinking of the number of convictions. I don't see all that many.

[Robert_S]

I think if you were to force the government welfare cases to work, you could accomplish more than forcing the rioters to work. How many elected officials have been caught stealing from their boss, only to find excuses and keep on going?

I suggest an e-petition to criminalize white collar crime to the extent that this rioting and looting has been.

White collar crime is already seriously criminalised. Are you familiar at all with penalties for such crimes?

To be honest, no. I was thinking of the number of convictions. I don't see all that many.

There's what's against the law, and then there's crimes. I'm thinking of cases in the US where banks gave out loans on nothing more than the word of the person that they could afford it, and then sold that debt as some kind of safe investment. They didn't break the law, but I'm hard pressed to say it wasn't a crime.

[charlou]

and what do you think they are going to do with no money ?

Find a way to make money.

Mhh. No paid work. No social security payments. What to do, what to do?

Ah, yes, got it.

Looting.

... pimping ... drugs ... weapons ... violent robberies ... harder crimes ... harsher penalties ... greater social/economic cost ... Sounds familiar ...

[Tyrannical]

And, if that is not enough for basic food, clothing, and rent? What if that just makes them more unhappy and prone to riot? Could require some tough decisions.

You love it don't you, you fucking B.N.P supporting shit.

Of course he loves it, as he feels he's being proven correct.

Well, it does still sadden me even though I know it is inevitable. The BNP have warned of this potential problem for years, and by ignoring them the potential problem gets worse and worse.

Does Tyrannical in fact support the BNP?

Tyrannical is an admitted white nationalist; why would he not support the BNP?

Indeed.
Though I've found Marine Le Pen and the French Front National a bit more promising these days. Can't ignore the gains made by the Swiss People's Party either.

I'm not a supremest, or a Nazi or anything like that though. I just beleive that ethnic tensions are inevitable under multiculturalism. I certainly don't want race riots, I just want the various races to be able to live peacefully together on the planet. It's just not possible in the same country.

[charlou]

It's just not possible in the same country.

Bollocks.


Also, here it is again:

[Robert_S]

It's just not possible in the same country.

Bollocks.


Also, here it is again:

It's not possible in the same country when too many people obsess over it.

[Mysturji]

Signed.
https://submissions.epetitions.direct.g ... nature/new

[Thinking Aloud]

Signed.
https://submissions.epetitions.direct.g ... nature/new

ARRRRGH! Whoever set that up spelled "lose" incorrectly.

[Robert_S]

Signed.
https://submissions.epetitions.direct.g ... nature/new

ARRRRGH! Whoever set that up spelled "lose" incorrectly.

Off with their benefits!

[charlou]

It's just not possible in the same country.

Bollocks.


Also, here it is again:

It's not possible in the same country when too many people obsess over it.

That's his point ... Stop obsessing over it ... Everyone.