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Re: Canada RIOTS!

Post by Gallstones » Sun Jun 19, 2011 2:54 am

I thought Coito's stuff was really funny. Best part of this thread so far.
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Post by sandinista » Sun Jun 19, 2011 3:12 am

The sad, painful truth about the rioters’ true identities
While police and politicians continue to lay the blame for this week’s Stanley Cup riot in Vancouver on professional anarchists and hardened thugs with deep-seated criminal tendencies, the blogosphere and social networks such as Facebook have been revealing a much more uncomfortable truth.

Many of those who participated in the riot were not these types of people at all. They were, in many instances, the sons and daughters of good, upstanding citizens who today must still be in shock over what they’ve learned.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/nat ... le2066321/

even though admitting, for the most part, that, indeed, the riots were caused by young hockey fans, the mainstream media still has to add in some bullshit to lighten the load:
While it certainly seems plausible, and maybe even likely, that Wednesday’s riot may have been incited by a small group of insurgents expert at taking advantage of potentially violent situations, it’s impossible to say exactly how much of the damage was caused by these small-time hoods and losers. That is, as opposed to that larger and amorphous group of mostly male twenty-somethings (and younger in many cases) with too much booze in their systems and carrying a repressed need to display their masculine identity.
"losers"?? fuck. Talk about editorializing! The losers are the hockey fans, true canadian youth, and that's about it.
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Post by laklak » Sun Jun 19, 2011 3:16 am

So, spoiled little drunken snots then?

6 of the best in the town square, that's the ticket.
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Post by sandinista » Sun Jun 19, 2011 3:17 am

average, typical, spoiled young hockey fans. The true canadian youth.
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Post by Robert_S » Sun Jun 19, 2011 4:12 am

Don't feel too bad Sandi, we got 'em down here too.
[ur=http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/british-columbia/gary_mason/the-sad-painful-truth-about-the-rioters-true-identities/article2066321/]theglobeandmail.com[/url]l wrote:Many years ago, a study by criminologist Alan Listiak into poor fan behaviour during Grey Cup week suggested that the truly oppressed are often the least likely to exhibit the kind of actions witnessed in Vancouver this week. Rather, time and again in North America, violent behaviour at festivals and sporting events tended to be more accurately identified as “middle class blowouts” than rational political protests.
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Post by Atheist-Lite » Sun Jun 19, 2011 5:38 am

Robert_S wrote:Don't feel too bad Sandi, we got 'em down here too.
[ur=http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/british-columbia/gary_mason/the-sad-painful-truth-about-the-rioters-true-identities/article2066321/]theglobeandmail.com[/url]l wrote:Many years ago, a study by criminologist Alan Listiak into poor fan behaviour during Grey Cup week suggested that the truly oppressed are often the least likely to exhibit the kind of actions witnessed in Vancouver this week. Rather, time and again in North America, violent behaviour at festivals and sporting events tended to be more accurately identified as “middle class blowouts” than rational political protests.
This is historic, revolution is a middle class enterprise, whilst blowback falls via the media onto the lower rungs. What is novel here, and was apparent albeit overlooked inthe UK student riots, is that the traditional media inspired blame game has failed at the first hurdle through new technology. This is going to put a rat cornered kind of pressure on the radical elements within the middle class to see any revolution through, as austerity in the post-dollar world kicks through nation after nation. :coffee:
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Post by Robert_S » Sun Jun 19, 2011 5:48 am

These aren't revolutionaries. These are spoiled little solipsistic shits who are not fit for any job of consequence.
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Post by Atheist-Lite » Sun Jun 19, 2011 5:57 am

Robert_S wrote:These aren't revolutionaries. These are spoiled little solipsistic shits who are not fit for any job of consequence.
I know their Canadian but let's just look beyond that for a moment? :tup:
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Post by sandinista » Sun Jun 19, 2011 6:52 am

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Robert_S wrote:These aren't revolutionaries. These are spoiled little solipsistic shits who are not fit for any job of consequence.
I know their Canadian but let's just look beyond that for a moment? :tup:
NOT revolutionaries in any sense. Rioting because of booze/hockey/fun....and also, perhaps, the craving for fame, some kind of internet fame. Being a "part of history".
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Post by Robert_S » Sun Jun 19, 2011 7:26 am

sandinista wrote:
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Robert_S wrote:These aren't revolutionaries. These are spoiled little solipsistic shits who are not fit for any job of consequence.
I know their Canadian but let's just look beyond that for a moment? :tup:
NOT revolutionaries in any sense. Rioting because of booze/hockey/fun....and also, perhaps, the craving for fame, some kind of internet fame. Being a "part of history".
Odd coincidence: IIRC, all the masterminds behind the 9-11 attacks were of the privileged classes too.
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Re: Canada RIOTS!

Post by Atheist-Lite » Sun Jun 19, 2011 7:27 am

sandinista wrote:
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Robert_S wrote:These aren't revolutionaries. These are spoiled little solipsistic shits who are not fit for any job of consequence.
I know their Canadian but let's just look beyond that for a moment? :tup:
NOT revolutionaries in any sense. Rioting because of booze/hockey/fun....and also, perhaps, the craving for fame, some kind of internet fame. Being a "part of history".
It was the nascent revolutionary spirit - they've been infected with the meme from the international media. Canadians have not yet had the cognitive shock of the coming global socio0economic collapse; so they invneted a post-modern excuse to express the urge to destroy the old order. :hamster:
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Post by BrettA » Sun Jun 19, 2011 10:41 am

sandinista wrote:average, typical, spoiled young hockey fans. The true canadian youth.
Wait a minute here... there's a whack of true canadian youth who couldn't give a shit about hockey - and there always has been.
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Post by Robert_S » Sun Jun 19, 2011 10:44 am

BrettA wrote:
sandinista wrote:average, typical, spoiled young hockey fans. The true canadian youth.
Wait a minute here... there's a whack of true canadian youth who couldn't give a shit about hockey - and there always has been.
Actually, those are undocumented Scotsmen.
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Re: Canada RIOTS!

Post by BrettA » Sun Jun 19, 2011 10:56 am

Robert_S wrote:
BrettA wrote:
sandinista wrote:average, typical, spoiled young hockey fans. The true canadian youth.
Wait a minute here... there's a whack of true canadian youth who couldn't give a shit about hockey - and there always has been.
Actually, those are undocumented Scotsmen.
Being one of 'em in the past - and no true, false, undocumented or any other kind of Scotsman - your assertion is too sweeping at the very least (ya get points for the reply, though - I lol'd a bit :-)
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Re: Canada RIOTS!

Post by sandinista » Sun Jun 19, 2011 5:56 pm

BrettA wrote:
sandinista wrote:average, typical, spoiled young hockey fans. The true canadian youth.
Wait a minute here... there's a whack of true canadian youth who couldn't give a shit about hockey - and there always has been.
true, hockey sucks, I never liked it...but, in general, canaduh=beer and hockey (and riots) :lol:
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