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Re: Canada RIOTS!

Post by sandinista » Fri Jun 17, 2011 8:49 am

It's not a "rebuttal", it's an example of a "well argued, measured response". :read:
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Re: Canada RIOTS!

Post by Coito ergo sum » Fri Jun 17, 2011 10:23 am

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As you can see, well argued, measured responses. :roll: Not to mention all the bullshit he was spouting at the begining of this post. As usual, JimC, you head is stuck firmly up your ass.
Yes, well, when the Nation starts off by accusing someone else of being "irresponsible" for attributing the cause of the riots to Leftists/anarchists, and then immediately proceeds to blame the riots on right wing nationalist, racist, sexist, capitalists who are purposefully instigating it in order to reap "criminal profits" and then the proceed only to interview left wing "activists" in support of their position....yes, a little bit of ridicule is warranted.

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Re: Canada RIOTS!

Post by Coito ergo sum » Fri Jun 17, 2011 12:17 pm

VANCOUVER -- Roving bands of anarchists and troublemakers bent on havoc set fires, broke windows and whipped up booze-fuelled mobs to create the worst riot in Vancouver’s history, Mayor Gregor Robertson said Thursday.

The mayor said there was no advance warning of the strategy, which caught police and city officials off guard, and may force them to take a different approach to security plans for large public gatherings in the future.

“There had been absolutely no signs of this coming,” Robertson said Thursday afternoon. “Both during the G-20 [leaders’ summit in Toronto] and the 2010 Olympics these thugs were well known to be organizing and preparing to take action and criminal activities on the streets. There were no indications of that leading into last night,” he said.
Read more: http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Vancou ... z1PXEAruPq

They're not very specific on what proof they have. The only thing I can glean from the article is that the presence of hammers and molotov cocktails is being seen as an indication that some folks had the intent to riot beforehand. That does stand to reason. Of course, that doesn't mean they were anarchists....

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Re: Canada RIOTS!

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Post by sandinista » Fri Jun 17, 2011 7:28 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:
VANCOUVER -- Roving bands of anarchists and troublemakers bent on havoc set fires, broke windows and whipped up booze-fuelled mobs to create the worst riot in Vancouver’s history, Mayor Gregor Robertson said Thursday.

The mayor said there was no advance warning of the strategy, which caught police and city officials off guard, and may force them to take a different approach to security plans for large public gatherings in the future.

“There had been absolutely no signs of this coming,” Robertson said Thursday afternoon. “Both during the G-20 [leaders’ summit in Toronto] and the 2010 Olympics these thugs were well known to be organizing and preparing to take action and criminal activities on the streets. There were no indications of that leading into last night,” he said.
Read more: http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Vancou ... z1PXEAruPq

They're not very specific on what proof they have. The only thing I can glean from the article is that the presence of hammers and molotov cocktails is being seen as an indication that some folks had the intent to riot beforehand. That does stand to reason. Of course, that doesn't mean they were anarchists....
Ahh... The Vancouver Sun.... lol. Now you must just be having a laugh. Criticizing the Nation for having an agenda and then linking to the Vancouver Sun? Do you think before you post?

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An editorial quoting the mayor of Van and the police chief. The two people most desperately trying to do damage control to protect the reputation of the city and the cops. You criticized the Nation for talking to "activists" and then print this piece of trash. The irony is :fp:
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Re: Canada RIOTS!

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Post by sandinista » Sat Jun 18, 2011 9:12 am

Should be funny watching the news when they arrest over 1000 teenager-mid 20 year old hockey fans. :roll: The whole thing is ludicrous.
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Re: Canada RIOTS!

Post by Robert_S » Sat Jun 18, 2011 11:36 am

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Should be funny watching the news when they arrest over 1000 teenager-mid 20 year old hockey fans. :roll: The whole thing is ludicrous.
What's ludicrous? The behavior of the rioters or the coming arrests. I say arrest, charge and try them and make sure they have criminal records if found guilty. As I said elsewhere" Somebody has to work at McDonalds and it might as well be them.
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Re: Canada RIOTS!

Post by sandinista » Sat Jun 18, 2011 6:31 pm

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Should be funny watching the news when they arrest over 1000 teenager-mid 20 year old hockey fans. :roll: The whole thing is ludicrous.
What's ludicrous? The behavior of the rioters or the coming arrests. I say arrest, charge and try them and make sure they have criminal records if found guilty. As I said elsewhere" Somebody has to work at McDonalds and it might as well be them.
ludicrous is the whole thing, the riot over fucking hockey, the media coverage (It was ANARCHISTS!!! or it was the LEFT or it was HARD CORE CRIMINALS) the facebook pictures, the response by other canadians saying (this isn't canaduh, or this isn't vancouver, or these weren't hockey fans). The whole thing is ridiculous.
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Re: Canada RIOTS!

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Robert_S wrote:
sandinista wrote:
Should be funny watching the news when they arrest over 1000 teenager-mid 20 year old hockey fans. :roll: The whole thing is ludicrous.
What's ludicrous? The behavior of the rioters or the coming arrests. I say arrest, charge and try them and make sure they have criminal records if found guilty. As I said elsewhere" Somebody has to work at McDonalds and it might as well be them.
ludicrous is the whole thing, the riot over fucking hockey, the media coverage (It was ANARCHISTS!!! or it was the LEFT or it was HARD CORE CRIMINALS) the facebook pictures, the response by other canadians saying (this isn't canaduh, or this isn't vancouver, or these weren't hockey fans). The whole thing is ridiculous.
The riot wasn't over hockey, it was a "flash mob" riot orchestrated by anarchists and Marxists intended to give them cover for their ant-corporatist, anti-democracy, anti-government sedition. The drunken hockey fans were just useful idiots.
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Re: Canada RIOTS!

Post by BrettA » Sat Jun 18, 2011 7:28 pm

Seth wrote:
sandinista wrote:
Robert_S wrote:
sandinista wrote:
Should be funny watching the news when they arrest over 1000 teenager-mid 20 year old hockey fans. :roll: The whole thing is ludicrous.
What's ludicrous? The behavior of the rioters or the coming arrests. I say arrest, charge and try them and make sure they have criminal records if found guilty. As I said elsewhere" Somebody has to work at McDonalds and it might as well be them.
ludicrous is the whole thing, the riot over fucking hockey, the media coverage (It was ANARCHISTS!!! or it was the LEFT or it was HARD CORE CRIMINALS) the facebook pictures, the response by other canadians saying (this isn't canaduh, or this isn't vancouver, or these weren't hockey fans). The whole thing is ridiculous.
The riot wasn't over hockey, it was a "flash mob" riot orchestrated by anarchists and Marxists intended to give them cover for their ant-corporatist, anti-democracy, anti-government sedition. The drunken hockey fans were just useful idiots.
Ha! "...orchestrated by anarchists and Marxists intended..." LOL... Good 'un, there!
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Post by Atheist-Lite » Sat Jun 18, 2011 7:32 pm

Canadians are still fighting the cold war? :think:
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Re: Canada RIOTS!

Post by Robert_S » Sat Jun 18, 2011 10:17 pm

Crumple wrote:Canadians are still fighting the cold war? :think:
Seth is Canadian? :think:
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Re: Canada RIOTS!

Post by sandinista » Sat Jun 18, 2011 10:32 pm

Seth wrote:
sandinista wrote:
Robert_S wrote:
sandinista wrote:
Should be funny watching the news when they arrest over 1000 teenager-mid 20 year old hockey fans. :roll: The whole thing is ludicrous.
What's ludicrous? The behavior of the rioters or the coming arrests. I say arrest, charge and try them and make sure they have criminal records if found guilty. As I said elsewhere" Somebody has to work at McDonalds and it might as well be them.
ludicrous is the whole thing, the riot over fucking hockey, the media coverage (It was ANARCHISTS!!! or it was the LEFT or it was HARD CORE CRIMINALS) the facebook pictures, the response by other canadians saying (this isn't canaduh, or this isn't vancouver, or these weren't hockey fans). The whole thing is ridiculous.
The riot wasn't over hockey, it was a "flash mob" riot orchestrated by anarchists and Marxists intended to give them cover for their ant-corporatist, anti-democracy, anti-government sedition. The drunken hockey fans were just useful idiots.
evidence of that? or just speaking out your ass like the canadian media? Over 1000 Marxists riot in Vancouver with Canuck jerseys. Interesting theory you got there. :doh:
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Re: Canada RIOTS!

Post by JimC » Sun Jun 19, 2011 12:04 am

Seth wrote:
The riot wasn't over hockey, it was a "flash mob" riot orchestrated by anarchists and Marxists intended to give them cover for their ant-corporatist, anti-democracy, anti-government sedition. The drunken hockey fans were just useful idiots.
Now that is really paranoia speaking, particularly the "orchestrated" part... :roll:

There may have been a sprinkling of radicals and anarchists there, but for no other reason than enjoying destruction of public and private property, not a calculated effort to smash the state. ;)

Otherwise, just a culture of drunken hoonishness...

Interesting that no such destructive riots occur after major Aussie Rules matches (up to 100,000 at some games), even with the strong propensity of young Aussie blokes to drink shit-loads of beer while watching sport...
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