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It's not a "rebuttal", it's an example of a "well argued, measured response". 

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Yes, well, when the Nation starts off by accusing someone else of being "irresponsible" for attributing the cause of the riots to Leftists/anarchists, and then immediately proceeds to blame the riots on right wing nationalist, racist, sexist, capitalists who are purposefully instigating it in order to reap "criminal profits" and then the proceed only to interview left wing "activists" in support of their position....yes, a little bit of ridicule is warranted.sandinista wrote:[
As you can see, well argued, measured responses.Not to mention all the bullshit he was spouting at the begining of this post. As usual, JimC, you head is stuck firmly up your ass.
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Read more: http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Vancou ... z1PXEAruPqVANCOUVER -- Roving bands of anarchists and troublemakers bent on havoc set fires, broke windows and whipped up booze-fuelled mobs to create the worst riot in Vancouver’s history, Mayor Gregor Robertson said Thursday.
The mayor said there was no advance warning of the strategy, which caught police and city officials off guard, and may force them to take a different approach to security plans for large public gatherings in the future.
“There had been absolutely no signs of this coming,” Robertson said Thursday afternoon. “Both during the G-20 [leaders’ summit in Toronto] and the 2010 Olympics these thugs were well known to be organizing and preparing to take action and criminal activities on the streets. There were no indications of that leading into last night,” he said.
They're not very specific on what proof they have. The only thing I can glean from the article is that the presence of hammers and molotov cocktails is being seen as an indication that some folks had the intent to riot beforehand. That does stand to reason. Of course, that doesn't mean they were anarchists....
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Ahh... The Vancouver Sun.... lol. Now you must just be having a laugh. Criticizing the Nation for having an agenda and then linking to the Vancouver Sun? Do you think before you post?Coito ergo sum wrote:Read more: http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Vancou ... z1PXEAruPqVANCOUVER -- Roving bands of anarchists and troublemakers bent on havoc set fires, broke windows and whipped up booze-fuelled mobs to create the worst riot in Vancouver’s history, Mayor Gregor Robertson said Thursday.
The mayor said there was no advance warning of the strategy, which caught police and city officials off guard, and may force them to take a different approach to security plans for large public gatherings in the future.
“There had been absolutely no signs of this coming,” Robertson said Thursday afternoon. “Both during the G-20 [leaders’ summit in Toronto] and the 2010 Olympics these thugs were well known to be organizing and preparing to take action and criminal activities on the streets. There were no indications of that leading into last night,” he said.
They're not very specific on what proof they have. The only thing I can glean from the article is that the presence of hammers and molotov cocktails is being seen as an indication that some folks had the intent to riot beforehand. That does stand to reason. Of course, that doesn't mean they were anarchists....
from wiki...but well known otherwise.
An editorial quoting the mayor of Van and the police chief. The two people most desperately trying to do damage control to protect the reputation of the city and the cops. You criticized the Nation for talking to "activists" and then print this piece of trash. The irony isThe Vancouver Sun is a daily newspaper first published in the Canadian province of British Columbia on February 12, 1912. The paper is currently published by the Pacific Newspaper Group, a division of Postmedia Network. It is published six days a week, Monday to Saturday. In more recent years, its opinions have been considered by scholars to be more right-wing and conservative

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Should be funny watching the news when they arrest over 1000 teenager-mid 20 year old hockey fans.

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What's ludicrous? The behavior of the rioters or the coming arrests. I say arrest, charge and try them and make sure they have criminal records if found guilty. As I said elsewhere" Somebody has to work at McDonalds and it might as well be them.sandinista wrote:Should be funny watching the news when they arrest over 1000 teenager-mid 20 year old hockey fans.The whole thing is ludicrous.
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ludicrous is the whole thing, the riot over fucking hockey, the media coverage (It was ANARCHISTS!!! or it was the LEFT or it was HARD CORE CRIMINALS) the facebook pictures, the response by other canadians saying (this isn't canaduh, or this isn't vancouver, or these weren't hockey fans). The whole thing is ridiculous.Robert_S wrote:What's ludicrous? The behavior of the rioters or the coming arrests. I say arrest, charge and try them and make sure they have criminal records if found guilty. As I said elsewhere" Somebody has to work at McDonalds and it might as well be them.sandinista wrote:Should be funny watching the news when they arrest over 1000 teenager-mid 20 year old hockey fans.The whole thing is ludicrous.
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The riot wasn't over hockey, it was a "flash mob" riot orchestrated by anarchists and Marxists intended to give them cover for their ant-corporatist, anti-democracy, anti-government sedition. The drunken hockey fans were just useful idiots.sandinista wrote:ludicrous is the whole thing, the riot over fucking hockey, the media coverage (It was ANARCHISTS!!! or it was the LEFT or it was HARD CORE CRIMINALS) the facebook pictures, the response by other canadians saying (this isn't canaduh, or this isn't vancouver, or these weren't hockey fans). The whole thing is ridiculous.Robert_S wrote:What's ludicrous? The behavior of the rioters or the coming arrests. I say arrest, charge and try them and make sure they have criminal records if found guilty. As I said elsewhere" Somebody has to work at McDonalds and it might as well be them.sandinista wrote:Should be funny watching the news when they arrest over 1000 teenager-mid 20 year old hockey fans.The whole thing is ludicrous.
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Ha! "...orchestrated by anarchists and Marxists intended..." LOL... Good 'un, there!Seth wrote:The riot wasn't over hockey, it was a "flash mob" riot orchestrated by anarchists and Marxists intended to give them cover for their ant-corporatist, anti-democracy, anti-government sedition. The drunken hockey fans were just useful idiots.sandinista wrote:ludicrous is the whole thing, the riot over fucking hockey, the media coverage (It was ANARCHISTS!!! or it was the LEFT or it was HARD CORE CRIMINALS) the facebook pictures, the response by other canadians saying (this isn't canaduh, or this isn't vancouver, or these weren't hockey fans). The whole thing is ridiculous.Robert_S wrote:What's ludicrous? The behavior of the rioters or the coming arrests. I say arrest, charge and try them and make sure they have criminal records if found guilty. As I said elsewhere" Somebody has to work at McDonalds and it might as well be them.sandinista wrote:Should be funny watching the news when they arrest over 1000 teenager-mid 20 year old hockey fans.The whole thing is ludicrous.
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Canadians are still fighting the cold war? 

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Seth is Canadian?Crumple wrote:Canadians are still fighting the cold war?

What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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evidence of that? or just speaking out your ass like the canadian media? Over 1000 Marxists riot in Vancouver with Canuck jerseys. Interesting theory you got there.Seth wrote:The riot wasn't over hockey, it was a "flash mob" riot orchestrated by anarchists and Marxists intended to give them cover for their ant-corporatist, anti-democracy, anti-government sedition. The drunken hockey fans were just useful idiots.sandinista wrote:ludicrous is the whole thing, the riot over fucking hockey, the media coverage (It was ANARCHISTS!!! or it was the LEFT or it was HARD CORE CRIMINALS) the facebook pictures, the response by other canadians saying (this isn't canaduh, or this isn't vancouver, or these weren't hockey fans). The whole thing is ridiculous.Robert_S wrote:What's ludicrous? The behavior of the rioters or the coming arrests. I say arrest, charge and try them and make sure they have criminal records if found guilty. As I said elsewhere" Somebody has to work at McDonalds and it might as well be them.sandinista wrote:Should be funny watching the news when they arrest over 1000 teenager-mid 20 year old hockey fans.The whole thing is ludicrous.

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Now that is really paranoia speaking, particularly the "orchestrated" part...Seth wrote:
The riot wasn't over hockey, it was a "flash mob" riot orchestrated by anarchists and Marxists intended to give them cover for their ant-corporatist, anti-democracy, anti-government sedition. The drunken hockey fans were just useful idiots.

There may have been a sprinkling of radicals and anarchists there, but for no other reason than enjoying destruction of public and private property, not a calculated effort to smash the state.

Otherwise, just a culture of drunken hoonishness...
Interesting that no such destructive riots occur after major Aussie Rules matches (up to 100,000 at some games), even with the strong propensity of young Aussie blokes to drink shit-loads of beer while watching sport...
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