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Re: Vote on Palestinian Statehood Looms

Post by Robert_S » Wed May 25, 2011 11:40 pm

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Robert_S wrote:We should have let the Soviets keep it. We'll let the Chinese and the Indians cast lots for it next time around.
The reason to help Afghanistan was because it bled the Soviets the same way Vietnam bled the U.S. It worked, too.
I have yet to see much in the way of evidence that Afghanistan was crucial to the collapse of the Soviet Union.
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Re: Vote on Palestinian Statehood Looms

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Wed May 25, 2011 11:41 pm

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Warren Dew wrote:
Robert_S wrote:We should have let the Soviets keep it. We'll let the Chinese and the Indians cast lots for it next time around.
The reason to help Afghanistan was because it bled the Soviets the same way Vietnam bled the U.S. It worked, too.
I have yet to see much in the way of evidence that Afghanistan was crucial to the collapse of the Soviet Union.
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Re: Vote on Palestinian Statehood Looms

Post by Warren Dew » Wed May 25, 2011 11:41 pm

Gawd wrote:It has to do with the Jews in America.
Certainly the jewish vote in the U.S. has something to do with it. However, the jewish vote in Israel has more to do with it. There have been periods when few or no settlements have been built, and periods when they have been torn down, and that has had a lot to do with which party was in power in Israel.

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Re: Vote on Palestinian Statehood Looms

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Wed May 25, 2011 11:46 pm

Warren Dew wrote:
Gawd wrote:It has to do with the Jews in America.
Certainly the jewish vote in the U.S. has something to do with it. However, the jewish vote in Israel has more to do with it. There have been periods when few or no settlements have been built, and periods when they have been torn down, and that has had a lot to do with which party was in power in Israel.
That won't wash with Gawd. He's paranoiac abut Jews in America, Jews in the US, Jews in the United States, Jews in the United Stats of America, Jews in the Untied Stats of America, Jews Jews in the country south of Canada, Jews in the country north of Mexico, and Jews.
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Re: Vote on Palestinian Statehood Looms

Post by Ian » Wed May 25, 2011 11:53 pm

They reminds me - I'm going to New York this weekend. After Tel Aviv, it's the most Jewish city in the world. I wonder what they'll do to me. :?

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Re: Vote on Palestinian Statehood Looms

Post by sandinista » Thu May 26, 2011 12:36 am

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With that pompous attitude, I will change my argument to "You guys had it coming.".
Fair enough. If I had my 'druthers, we'dve hit back harder.

And, if your boys pull another job, I'm thinking we will...
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Re: Vote on Palestinian Statehood Looms

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Thu May 26, 2011 12:37 am

sandinista wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
Gawd wrote:
With that pompous attitude, I will change my argument to "You guys had it coming.".
Fair enough. If I had my 'druthers, we'dve hit back harder.

And, if your boys pull another job, I'm thinking we will...
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Re: Vote on Palestinian Statehood Looms

Post by sandinista » Thu May 26, 2011 12:56 am

Gawdzilla wrote:
sandinista wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
Gawd wrote:
With that pompous attitude, I will change my argument to "You guys had it coming.".
Fair enough. If I had my 'druthers, we'dve hit back harder.

And, if your boys pull another job, I'm thinking we will...
:fp:
*pat, pat, pat*
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Re: Vote on Palestinian Statehood Looms

Post by pErvinalia » Thu May 26, 2011 2:46 am

sandinista wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
Gawd wrote:
With that pompous attitude, I will change my argument to "You guys had it coming.".
Fair enough. If I had my 'druthers, we'dve hit back harder.

And, if your boys pull another job, I'm thinking we will...
:fp:
Exactly.

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Re: Vote on Palestinian Statehood Looms

Post by Gawd » Thu May 26, 2011 4:03 am

And don't anyone dare try to use the bullshit argument (JimC, I'm looking at you) that this is just a case of a few bad Jews that are causing the settlements. It's a country full of bad Jews that is the problem and who have the unwavering military support of another country controlled by bad Jews:

Haaretz poll: Netanyahu's popularity soaring following Washington trip
It's doubtful that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, in his wildest, most optimistic dreams, would have dared to imagine when he set off for the United States last week that Israelis would respond to his six-day trip so enthusiastically: According to a new Haaretz poll, they are giving the visit high marks, considering it an overwhelming success.

The poll, conducted by the Dialog organization, under the supervision of Prof. Camil Fuchs of the Tel Aviv University Statistics Department, showed that 47 percent of the Israeli public believes the U.S. trip was a success, while only 10 percent viewed it as a failure.

Nearly half of the public felt "pride" at seeing Netanyahu address the joint session of Congress on Tuesday, while only 5 percent deemed it a "missed opportunity." The rest expressed no opinion, while 20 percent of those questioned said they hadn't watched the speech.
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http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/ne ... p-1.364068

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Re: Vote on Palestinian Statehood Looms

Post by sandinista » Thu May 26, 2011 6:29 am

rEvolutionist wrote:
sandinista wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
Gawd wrote:
With that pompous attitude, I will change my argument to "You guys had it coming.".
Fair enough. If I had my 'druthers, we'dve hit back harder.

And, if your boys pull another job, I'm thinking we will...
:fp:
Exactly.

"America... FUCK YEAH!" :hehe:
Same old same old for CES. Standard "America kicks ass...well...ahhhhh... but but but...CUBA!!!!" :bb:

followed, of course, by zilla with the only note he knows how to play.
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Re: Vote on Palestinian Statehood Looms

Post by Coito ergo sum » Thu May 26, 2011 12:24 pm

rEvolutionist wrote:
sandinista wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
Gawd wrote:
With that pompous attitude, I will change my argument to "You guys had it coming.".
Fair enough. If I had my 'druthers, we'dve hit back harder.

And, if your boys pull another job, I'm thinking we will...
:fp:
Exactly.

"America... FUCK YEAH!" :hehe:
Turn the other cheek policy for you then?

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Re: Vote on Palestinian Statehood Looms

Post by Coito ergo sum » Thu May 26, 2011 12:25 pm

Gawd wrote:And don't anyone dare try to use the bullshit argument (JimC, I'm looking at you) that this is just a case of a few bad Jews that are causing the settlements. It's a country full of bad Jews that is the problem and who have the unwavering military support of another country controlled by bad Jews:
Bad Joos vs Bad Mooslims. :yawn:

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Re: Vote on Palestinian Statehood Looms

Post by Coito ergo sum » Thu May 26, 2011 12:27 pm

sandinista wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote:
sandinista wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
Gawd wrote:
With that pompous attitude, I will change my argument to "You guys had it coming.".
Fair enough. If I had my 'druthers, we'dve hit back harder.

And, if your boys pull another job, I'm thinking we will...
:fp:
Exactly.

"America... FUCK YEAH!" :hehe:
Same old same old for CES. Standard "America kicks ass...well...ahhhhh... but but but...CUBA!!!!" :bb:

followed, of course, by zilla with the only note he knows how to play.
I didn't say America kicks ass, nor did I mention Cuba.

I said that I wished we'd hit back harder after 9/11, and if it happens again, I think we will. Do you doubt that? Do you think that if there was another event on the scale of 9/11/01 that the US WOULDN'T respond with at least as much force as it did after 9/11 if not more?

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Re: Vote on Palestinian Statehood Looms

Post by pErvinalia » Thu May 26, 2011 12:40 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote:
sandinista wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
Gawd wrote:
With that pompous attitude, I will change my argument to "You guys had it coming.".
Fair enough. If I had my 'druthers, we'dve hit back harder.

And, if your boys pull another job, I'm thinking we will...
:fp:
Exactly.

"America... FUCK YEAH!" :hehe:
Turn the other cheek policy for you then?
Nup. I'm all about outcomes that work. By all means bomb the living fuck out of every country that mosquito-bites you. Dominate the world through fear under the threat of massive punishment, and you'll be no better than the Nazi's. [awaits a call of "Godwin", as if that is an answer to my point]. How well did that work out for them? It might last for a while, but you can't beat proud people down. They WILL fight back (exactly what the Palestinians do). Neo-cons, and the likes of you, will be the downfall of your country. Why do you think it is already well on the way down the shitter? Exporting fear and punishment DOES NOT WORK. It just wastes money. Money you guys don't have to be wasting.
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