I have yet to see much in the way of evidence that Afghanistan was crucial to the collapse of the Soviet Union.Warren Dew wrote:The reason to help Afghanistan was because it bled the Soviets the same way Vietnam bled the U.S. It worked, too.Robert_S wrote:We should have let the Soviets keep it. We'll let the Chinese and the Indians cast lots for it next time around.
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What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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"Well, Afghanistan is full of Joos, so naturally...."Robert_S wrote:I have yet to see much in the way of evidence that Afghanistan was crucial to the collapse of the Soviet Union.Warren Dew wrote:The reason to help Afghanistan was because it bled the Soviets the same way Vietnam bled the U.S. It worked, too.Robert_S wrote:We should have let the Soviets keep it. We'll let the Chinese and the Indians cast lots for it next time around.
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Certainly the jewish vote in the U.S. has something to do with it. However, the jewish vote in Israel has more to do with it. There have been periods when few or no settlements have been built, and periods when they have been torn down, and that has had a lot to do with which party was in power in Israel.Gawd wrote:It has to do with the Jews in America.
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That won't wash with Gawd. He's paranoiac abut Jews in America, Jews in the US, Jews in the United States, Jews in the United Stats of America, Jews in the Untied Stats of America, Jews Jews in the country south of Canada, Jews in the country north of Mexico, and Jews.Warren Dew wrote:Certainly the jewish vote in the U.S. has something to do with it. However, the jewish vote in Israel has more to do with it. There have been periods when few or no settlements have been built, and periods when they have been torn down, and that has had a lot to do with which party was in power in Israel.Gawd wrote:It has to do with the Jews in America.
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They reminds me - I'm going to New York this weekend. After Tel Aviv, it's the most Jewish city in the world. I wonder what they'll do to me. 

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Coito ergo sum wrote:Fair enough. If I had my 'druthers, we'dve hit back harder.Gawd wrote:
With that pompous attitude, I will change my argument to "You guys had it coming.".
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*pat, pat, pat*sandinista wrote:Coito ergo sum wrote:Fair enough. If I had my 'druthers, we'dve hit back harder.Gawd wrote:
With that pompous attitude, I will change my argument to "You guys had it coming.".
And, if your boys pull another job, I'm thinking we will...
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*wank, wank, wank*Gawdzilla wrote:*pat, pat, pat*sandinista wrote:Coito ergo sum wrote:Fair enough. If I had my 'druthers, we'dve hit back harder.Gawd wrote:
With that pompous attitude, I will change my argument to "You guys had it coming.".
And, if your boys pull another job, I'm thinking we will...

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Exactly.sandinista wrote:Coito ergo sum wrote:Fair enough. If I had my 'druthers, we'dve hit back harder.Gawd wrote:
With that pompous attitude, I will change my argument to "You guys had it coming.".
And, if your boys pull another job, I'm thinking we will...
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And don't anyone dare try to use the bullshit argument (JimC, I'm looking at you) that this is just a case of a few bad Jews that are causing the settlements. It's a country full of bad Jews that is the problem and who have the unwavering military support of another country controlled by bad Jews:
Haaretz poll: Netanyahu's popularity soaring following Washington trip
Haaretz poll: Netanyahu's popularity soaring following Washington trip
http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/ne ... p-1.364068It's doubtful that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, in his wildest, most optimistic dreams, would have dared to imagine when he set off for the United States last week that Israelis would respond to his six-day trip so enthusiastically: According to a new Haaretz poll, they are giving the visit high marks, considering it an overwhelming success.
The poll, conducted by the Dialog organization, under the supervision of Prof. Camil Fuchs of the Tel Aviv University Statistics Department, showed that 47 percent of the Israeli public believes the U.S. trip was a success, while only 10 percent viewed it as a failure.
Nearly half of the public felt "pride" at seeing Netanyahu address the joint session of Congress on Tuesday, while only 5 percent deemed it a "missed opportunity." The rest expressed no opinion, while 20 percent of those questioned said they hadn't watched the speech.
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Same old same old for CES. Standard "America kicks ass...well...ahhhhh... but but but...CUBA!!!!"rEvolutionist wrote:Exactly.sandinista wrote:Coito ergo sum wrote:Fair enough. If I had my 'druthers, we'dve hit back harder.Gawd wrote:
With that pompous attitude, I will change my argument to "You guys had it coming.".
And, if your boys pull another job, I'm thinking we will...
"America... FUCK YEAH!"

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Turn the other cheek policy for you then?rEvolutionist wrote:Exactly.sandinista wrote:Coito ergo sum wrote:Fair enough. If I had my 'druthers, we'dve hit back harder.Gawd wrote:
With that pompous attitude, I will change my argument to "You guys had it coming.".
And, if your boys pull another job, I'm thinking we will...
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Bad Joos vs Bad Mooslims.Gawd wrote:And don't anyone dare try to use the bullshit argument (JimC, I'm looking at you) that this is just a case of a few bad Jews that are causing the settlements. It's a country full of bad Jews that is the problem and who have the unwavering military support of another country controlled by bad Jews:

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I didn't say America kicks ass, nor did I mention Cuba.sandinista wrote:Same old same old for CES. Standard "America kicks ass...well...ahhhhh... but but but...CUBA!!!!"rEvolutionist wrote:Exactly.sandinista wrote:Coito ergo sum wrote:Fair enough. If I had my 'druthers, we'dve hit back harder.Gawd wrote:
With that pompous attitude, I will change my argument to "You guys had it coming.".
And, if your boys pull another job, I'm thinking we will...
"America... FUCK YEAH!"![]()
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I said that I wished we'd hit back harder after 9/11, and if it happens again, I think we will. Do you doubt that? Do you think that if there was another event on the scale of 9/11/01 that the US WOULDN'T respond with at least as much force as it did after 9/11 if not more?
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Nup. I'm all about outcomes that work. By all means bomb the living fuck out of every country that mosquito-bites you. Dominate the world through fear under the threat of massive punishment, and you'll be no better than the Nazi's. [awaits a call of "Godwin", as if that is an answer to my point]. How well did that work out for them? It might last for a while, but you can't beat proud people down. They WILL fight back (exactly what the Palestinians do). Neo-cons, and the likes of you, will be the downfall of your country. Why do you think it is already well on the way down the shitter? Exporting fear and punishment DOES NOT WORK. It just wastes money. Money you guys don't have to be wasting.Coito ergo sum wrote:Turn the other cheek policy for you then?rEvolutionist wrote:Exactly.sandinista wrote:Coito ergo sum wrote:Fair enough. If I had my 'druthers, we'dve hit back harder.Gawd wrote:
With that pompous attitude, I will change my argument to "You guys had it coming.".
And, if your boys pull another job, I'm thinking we will...
"America... FUCK YEAH!"
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