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Post by Svartalf » Mon May 23, 2011 9:01 pm

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Coito ergo sum wrote:I think we're just putting a lot of people in jail who ought not to be.
DEFINITELY. Such as a lot of marijuana-related convicts. And "three strikes" violators. And mandatory-minimum sentences. The prison population doesn't have to be nearly so high.
well... beside likely lobbying from the prison industrial complex, you know why they started passing thse 3strikes laws. The idea is that if a guy will go on committing crimes after release, he's not fit for society and must be put away. What are the odds of 3strikers NOT recidiving if those laws were repealed? what to do with them once they do? (since a quick application of hemp is no longer an option)
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Gallstones wrote:We should allow prisoners to smoke marijuana and to grow it on prison farms. It will keep them mellow.
but the cost to keep them fed would go through the roof
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Post by Atheist-Lite » Mon May 23, 2011 9:20 pm

This is the beginning of societal collapse. Always starts with emptying the prisons. It's too expensive to keep the massive population fed so their thrown on the streets whilst cuts to the police mean they have plenty of choices. :naughty:
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I hope they all get jobs in law enforcement. :tup:
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Gawdzilla wrote:I hope they all get jobs in law enforcement. :tup:
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Post by Coito ergo sum » Mon May 23, 2011 9:54 pm

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Gallstones wrote:We should allow prisoners to smoke marijuana and to grow it on prison farms. It will keep them mellow.
but the cost to keep them fed would go through the roof
Pork rinds can be purchased in bulk. They'll be fine.

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Post by maiforpeace » Mon May 23, 2011 9:55 pm

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Coito ergo sum wrote:I think we're just putting a lot of people in jail who ought not to be.
DEFINITELY. Such as a lot of marijuana-related convicts. And "three strikes" violators. And mandatory-minimum sentences. The prison population doesn't have to be nearly so high.
:this:

The recividism rate for drug offenders is huge...if personal use drug offenders, (not just marijuana related ones) weren't jailed at the drop of a hat like they are now that would also reduce many of the three strike offenders.

There's a court in Santa Clara that specializes in handling drug offenders and the mentally ill...the judge, Stephen Manley handles these offenders in a much more realistic and humane manner than the regular courts do. It's been very successful, but it requires more resources up front to help these offenders. The recividism rate among the offenders who are judged by Manley in this special court is much lower than for the offenders who face the bench in regular courts.
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Gawdzilla wrote:I hope they all get jobs in law enforcement. :tup:
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Yeah, like the English do! :tup:
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Gallstones wrote:We should allow prisoners to smoke marijuana and to grow it on prison farms. It will keep them mellow.
but the cost to keep them fed would go through the roof
Pork rinds can be purchased in bulk. They'll be fine.
You'd need shitloads of Tabasco Sauce and/or Louisiana Hot Sauce.
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Post by Coito ergo sum » Mon May 23, 2011 10:00 pm

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Svartalf wrote:
Gallstones wrote:We should allow prisoners to smoke marijuana and to grow it on prison farms. It will keep them mellow.
but the cost to keep them fed would go through the roof
Pork rinds can be purchased in bulk. They'll be fine.
You'd need shitloads of Tabasco Sauce and/or Louisiana Hot Sauce.
On second thought, just eliminate the prison and build a bunch of guillotines and a Soylent Green factory.

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Post by laklak » Mon May 23, 2011 10:22 pm

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Post by MarkS » Mon May 23, 2011 10:32 pm

Why does the us have such a large prison population? someone told me they are used as slave labour. is this true?
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MarkS wrote:Why does the us have such a large prison population? someone told me they are used as slave labour. is this true?
They're used as sex slaves for the Canadians.
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Re: US Supreme Court Orders 46,000 criminals released

Post by maiforpeace » Mon May 23, 2011 11:08 pm

MarkS wrote:Why does the us have such a large prison population? someone told me they are used as slave labour. is this true?
They are used as labor, but only a small percentage...I am fairly certain this is not the reason why we have such a large prison population.

I think it's a little more complex. To name a couple of factors that I think are contributors...our highly penalistic system of justice and big business. Private contractors manage the bulk of the physical and labor resources for prisons. Halliburton is a huge prison contractor, including the building of new ones.
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Re: US Supreme Court Orders 46,000 criminals released

Post by Gallstones » Mon May 23, 2011 11:12 pm

Looks like there is light at the end of the tunnel.......

Violent crime in U.S. on the decline

By Jerry Markon
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, May 25, 2010

For the third consecutive year, violent crime has declined in the United States, including a 7.2 percent reduction in homicides, preliminary FBI figures for 2009 released Monday show.
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