Are you happy with Barack Obama's Presidency?

[Coito ergo sum]

I still can't figure it out how Regan became president in the first place. What experience in leading a country like USA does he have, other than playing a cowboy saving the day in the ghost towns of Texas?

He was governor of California for eight years. At the time, California was economically approximately the 5th largest nation on Earth.

What credentials did Swartzenager have to become a governor other than playing a "terminator" in movies giving gullable people impression he's gonna get rid of bad guys.

In my view, not much.

All the attacks on Obama are dog pack attacks. Gullible sheep following pansy ansy Americans.

Obama hasn't been attacked, not in the way George W. Bush was - incessantly and constantly. Obama has had his citizenship questioned - so what? So did John McCain. And, if John McCain was President there would be an afterbirther movement regarding his birth in the Panama Canal Zone.

Please - the media protect the hell out of Obama, and there is almost no vetting. If GWBush refused to do something as simple as release a stupid birth certificate or release his college transcripts, you'd be singing the opposite tune.

[Chuck Jones]

I still can't figure it out how Regan became president in the first place. What experience in leading a country like USA does he have, other than playing a cowboy saving the day in the ghost towns of Texas?

He was governor of California for eight years. At the time, California was economically approximately the 5th largest nation on Earth.

What credentials did Swartzenager have to become a governor other than playing a "terminator" in movies giving gullable people impression he's gonna get rid of bad guys.

In my view, not much.

All the attacks on Obama are dog pack attacks. Gullible sheep following pansy ansy Americans.

Obama hasn't been attacked, not in the way George W. Bush was - incessantly and constantly. Obama has had his citizenship questioned - so what? So did John McCain. And, if John McCain was President there would be an afterbirther movement regarding his birth in the Panama Canal Zone.

Please - the media protect the hell out of Obama, and there is almost no vetting. If GWBush refused to do something as simple as release a stupid birth certificate or release his college transcripts, you'd be singing the opposite tune.

You know nothing.

[Coito ergo sum]

Regan: I highly doubt that major decisions or any decisions were made from his own wits. In addition, late in his presidency, I'm not sure he was even aware that he's the president of the USA, since his Alzeheimers was starting to kick in.

Scurrilous lies.

Even Ron Reagan, Jr. didn't assert that his dad's Alzheimers had started to "kick in." All he wrote in his book was that given what we NOW KNOW about the long lead up to Alzeimers, there were signs. That is a far cry from it "kicking in."

As far as the "governetor", the state of California is in such bad shape financially, and that is "who's" responsibility? Obamas?

Just ask yourself who you'd blame in a similar circumstance if McCain was President.

Why doesn't Obama and the Democratic Congress in Washington bear some responsibility? I wouldn't blame them for it exclusively, and Bush and the Republicans are at least equally to blame. But, there is this tendency among Democrat supporters to view Democrats as sort of bystanders, not having anything really to do with the actual events.

[Coito ergo sum]

I still can't figure it out how Regan became president in the first place. What experience in leading a country like USA does he have, other than playing a cowboy saving the day in the ghost towns of Texas?

He was governor of California for eight years. At the time, California was economically approximately the 5th largest nation on Earth.

What credentials did Swartzenager have to become a governor other than playing a "terminator" in movies giving gullable people impression he's gonna get rid of bad guys.

In my view, not much.

All the attacks on Obama are dog pack attacks. Gullible sheep following pansy ansy Americans.

Obama hasn't been attacked, not in the way George W. Bush was - incessantly and constantly. Obama has had his citizenship questioned - so what? So did John McCain. And, if John McCain was President there would be an afterbirther movement regarding his birth in the Panama Canal Zone.

Please - the media protect the hell out of Obama, and there is almost no vetting. If GWBush refused to do something as simple as release a stupid birth certificate or release his college transcripts, you'd be singing the opposite tune.

You know nothing.

Educate me.

[Coito ergo sum]

The bastard acts too much like the white man that came before him, right down to the Christianity, greed, war mongering, Guantamano, and false "democracy". We need a true black brother.

He's secretly a Scotsman.

But, there is no true Scotsman.

[ksen]

GHWBush was certainly not monging any war. The only thing he took action in was the Persian Gulf War, and that received the Security Council stamp of approval after Kuwait was annexed by Hussein. I mean - what ought to have been done? Nothing?

Yes, nothing. If the Kuwaitis can't hold on to their own country then they don't deserve to keep it.

[Coito ergo sum]

GHWBush was certainly not monging any war. The only thing he took action in was the Persian Gulf War, and that received the Security Council stamp of approval after Kuwait was annexed by Hussein. I mean - what ought to have been done? Nothing?

Yes, nothing. If the Kuwaitis can't hold on to their own country then they don't deserve to keep it.

Gotcha. You'll be at the White House picketing Obama's Libyan campaign, and then over to the French embassy to picket the French war in the Ivory Coast, then ay?

[kiki5711]

[quote="Coito ergo sum
Scurrilous lies.

Even Ron Reagan, Jr. didn't assert that his dad's Alzheimers had started to "kick in." All he wrote in his book was that given what we NOW KNOW about the long lead up to Alzeimers, there were signs. That is a far cry from it "kicking in."

To know the real truth about Regans Alzeheimer's condition would be an embarassement to this country and a laughing stock to the rest of the world. I mean can you see those Arabs saying: "hey let's meet with that cowboy president, if only he could remember his name he he he"

I remember listening to Regan speak, and he always sounded like he was reading a script and putting on his best show for the role he got. I am almost certain that he went to bed asking his wife "Am I really the president of the United States hun?" Yes, you are dear, the best acting role you got so far!

As far as the "governetor", the state of California is in such bad shape financially, and that is "who's" responsibility? Obamas
Just ask yourself who you'd blame in a similar circumstance if McCain was President.

Why doesn't Obama and the Democratic Congress in Washington bear some responsibility? I wouldn't blame them for it exclusively, and Bush and the Republicans are at least equally to blame. But, there is this tendency among Democrat supporters to view Democrats as sort of bystanders, not having anything really to do with the actual events.

[/quote]

It didn't take the last two years for California to go broke and to beg to be able to claim bankruptcy. It took probably the 8 years of "governator's" leadership.

[kiki5711]

here's a few quotes from Regan

A tree's a tree. How many more do you need to look at?
Ronald Reagan
(well ain't that deep)

Above all, we must realize that no arsenal, or no weapon in the arsenals of the world, is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women. It is a weapon our adversaries in today's world do not have.
Ronald Reagan
(I feel all warm inside and so patriotic"

All great change in America begins at the dinner table.
Ronald Reagan
(at McDonalds dinner table)

All the waste in a year from a nuclear power plant can be stored under a desk.
Ronald Reagan
(ha ha ha)

Approximately 80% of our air pollution stems from hydrocarbons released by vegetation, so let's not go overboard in setting and enforcing tough emission standards from man-made sources.
Ronald Reagan

(ha ha ha/again)

But there are advantages to being elected President. The day after I was elected, I had my high school grades classified Top Secret.
Ronald Reagan

Democracy is worth dying for, because it's the most deeply honorable form of government ever devised by man.
Ronald Reagan
(Oh, holy night....)

Don't be afraid to see what you see.
Ronald Reagan
(Ok, but what do youuu see?)

Entrepreneurs and their small enterprises are responsible for almost all the economic growth in the United States.
Ronald Reagan
(Absolutely, and then we train the employees to speak English, not Indian)

Freedom prospers when religion is vibrant and the rule of law under God is acknowledged.
Ronald Reagan
(YeS! Religion is what we desperately need.)

Going to college offered me the chance to play football for four more years.
Ronald Reagan

Government always finds a need for whatever money it gets.
Ronald Reagan
(What else is new)

Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves.
Ronald Reagan
(Ok, what do you mean by that?)

[Coito ergo sum]

[quote="Coito ergo sum
Scurrilous lies.

Even Ron Reagan, Jr. didn't assert that his dad's Alzheimers had started to "kick in." All he wrote in his book was that given what we NOW KNOW about the long lead up to Alzeimers, there were signs. That is a far cry from it "kicking in."

To know the real truth about Regans Alzeheimer's condition would be an embarassement to this country and a laughing stock to the rest of the world. I mean can you see those Arabs saying: "hey let's meet with that cowboy president, if only he could remember his name he he he"

I remember listening to Regan speak, and he always sounded like he was reading a script and putting on his best show for the role he got. I am almost certain that he went to bed asking his wife "Am I really the president of the United States hun?" Yes, you are dear, the best acting role you got so far!

LOL - if you're worried about Presidents reading from scripts, you need look no further than the current denizen of La Casa Blanca...

[kiki5711]

LOL - if you're worried about Presidents reading from scripts, you need look no further than the current denizen of La Casa Blanca...

I gotta admit Bush is the winner in reading the scripts department. He messed that up too. He always had that look on his face like "what? who? did he say sometin? oh, is it my turn to talk?"

[Coito ergo sum]

here's a few quotes from Regan

A tree's a tree. How many more do you need to look at?
Ronald Reagan
(well ain't that deep)

Taken out of context, of course. The sentence immediately prior to that referred to "hundreds of thousands of acres" of redwood trees, and the issue was how to strike the balance between conservation and resource needs. It's of course used to portray Reagan as dumb. But, that's typical of liberals - if you're not with them, you're either with them, or dumb or evil. Eisenhower was painted as stupid, Nixon was never considered stupid but he was evil incarnate, Ford was a bumbling boob, Reagan was dumb as a stone, GHWBush was bumbling, out of touch and slow, and GW was of course the "dumbest President in history." After a while this "Republicans are stupid" line becomes quite tiresome - there won't ever be a Republican who is considered smart by the American left (unless he is Nixonian evil).

It's a shorthand, lazy way to oppose someone. It let's you just say "he's stupid," and not actually examine the issues.

Above all, we must realize that no arsenal, or no weapon in the arsenals of the world, is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women. It is a weapon our adversaries in today's world do not have.
Ronald Reagan
(I feel all warm inside and so patriotic"

Something wrong with inspiring words? Or, is it the fact that he's lauding moral courage and freedom?

All great change in America begins at the dinner table.
Ronald Reagan
(at McDonalds dinner table)

As I noted - it's either he's stupid, or he's evil. Now, a perfectly reasonable statement of the "all politics is local" bent, and it has to mean that what he's talking about is people eating fast food at McDonalds.

All the waste in a year from a nuclear power plant can be stored under a desk.
Ronald Reagan
(ha ha ha)

The thrust of this comment is not incorrect. What he was saying was that if the spent fuel from a nuclear power plant were reprocessed (i.e., if the reusable portions were separated out from the unsalvageable trash), you'd conceivably end up with just a few cubic feet of waste. This would indeed fit under a desk. Of course, the spent fuel isn't reprocessed because that procedure creates un-needed Plutonium. But, even so, a year's worth of waste from 1,000 megawatt nuclear power plat probably takes up about 150 cubic feet, more or less.

Incidentally, many environmentalists have come around to nuclear power. It is now considered a very green technology.

Approximately 80% of our air pollution stems from hydrocarbons released by vegetation, so let's not go overboard in setting and enforcing tough emission standards from man-made sources.
Ronald Reagan

(ha ha ha/again)

The early 80s were about 3 decades ago, and what we know about the effects of human-sourced emissions has increased a bit. Remember, in the early 80s, we were still getting disaster theories about impending ice ages, and whatnot.

But there are advantages to being elected President. The day after I was elected, I had my high school grades classified Top Secret.
Ronald Reagan

Have you verified whether he actually made his high school grades top secret? Or, could this be a - gasp - joke...

Democracy is worth dying for, because it's the most deeply honorable form of government ever devised by man.
Ronald Reagan
(Oh, holy night....)

Is there anything worth dying for?

Don't be afraid to see what you see.
Ronald Reagan
(Ok, but what do youuu see?)

What do you see? Most of these that you've listed are only funny if you start with a preconceived notion that Reagan was an idiot.

Entrepreneurs and their small enterprises are responsible for almost all the economic growth in the United States.
Ronald Reagan
(Absolutely, and then we train the employees to speak English, not Indian)

Your parenthetical makes zero sense. What's your problem with Reagan's quote?

Freedom prospers when religion is vibrant and the rule of law under God is acknowledged.
Ronald Reagan
(YeS! Religion is what we desperately need.)

You think he's the only one? Carter was a Born Again Christian.

Going to college offered me the chance to play football for four more years.
Ronald Reagan

No humor allowed!

Government always finds a need for whatever money it gets.
Ronald Reagan
(What else is new)

Exactly. It illustrates that government will not save money.

Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves.
Ronald Reagan
(Ok, what do you mean by that?)

I suspect he means that government ought to get out of our bidnuss, and not get all up in our grill.

[Seth]

GHWBush was certainly not monging any war. The only thing he took action in was the Persian Gulf War, and that received the Security Council stamp of approval after Kuwait was annexed by Hussein. I mean - what ought to have been done? Nothing?

Yes, nothing. If the Kuwaitis can't hold on to their own country then they don't deserve to keep it.

It was in our economic and strategic interests to assist our ally Kuwait, so we did.

[Seth]

here's a few quotes from Regan

A tree's a tree. How many more do you need to look at?
Ronald Reagan
(well ain't that deep)

Taken out of context, of course. The sentence immediately prior to that referred to "hundreds of thousands of acres" of redwood trees, and the issue was how to strike the balance between conservation and resource needs. It's of course used to portray Reagan as dumb. But, that's typical of liberals - if you're not with them, you're either with them, or dumb or evil. Eisenhower was painted as stupid, Nixon was never considered stupid but he was evil incarnate, Ford was a bumbling boob, Reagan was dumb as a stone, GHWBush was bumbling, out of touch and slow, and GW was of course the "dumbest President in history." After a while this "Republicans are stupid" line becomes quite tiresome - there won't ever be a Republican who is considered smart by the American left (unless he is Nixonian evil).

It's a shorthand, lazy way to oppose someone. It let's you just say "he's stupid," and not actually examine the issues.

The technical name is "quote mining in the Alinsky mode."

[kiki5711]

kiki5711 wrote:

Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves.
Ronald Reagan
(Ok, what do you mean by that?)

I suspect he means that government ought to get out of our bidnuss, and not get all up in our grill.

funny...do republicans then have different conservative values than now? being their agenda RECENTLY to cut funds for "planned parenthood" and put limits on abortions. That's staying away from on up in our grill for sure.