The reality of UK government cuts

[Rum]

Im sorry to hear this Rum.
When you start recieveing your pension does this mean we can call you Pensioner II?

Oh fuck!

[Pensioner]

Im sorry to hear this Rum.
When you start recieveing your pension does this mean we can call you Pensioner II?

Over my dead body, oops.

[Pensioner]

Im sorry to hear this Rum.
When you start recieveing your pension does this mean we can call you Pensioner II?

Oh fuck!

Cunt

[Pappa]

There's a chance my job could disappear due to funding cuts. It's all up in the air at the moment though.

[Santa_Claus]

I will resist telling you to stick it where the sun doesn't shine. I worked for 35 years and I draw a pension now based on the savings *I* made during those years. I work 50% of the week now and get half pay plus the pension I am owed because *I* (not the government) put the money away. Its a good deal, based on my long term commitment, their need to keep expertise in the system and my desire to slow down but not cease work. A good deal all round I would suggest.

Unfortunately central government finances seemed to have fucked things up.

You might like to be a little more confident in what you are talking about before posting bollocks.

I know for a fact that the money you contributed to your pension will not go anywhere near meeting the cost of your pension (if you live as long as average). The balance has / will come from HMG. The fact that HMG made some really crap deals is not your personal concern, and I don't criticise you or anyone else for taking advatage of ignorance and stupidity (hey, it's business ) but I do find your willingness to self delude so very typical of the financial illiteracy that helped the country fall off a cliff economically. and not to understand that the Country hasn't hit reality yet. And no, it wasn't all the fault of "the bankers" - kinda like blaming the SS for Hitler or WWII, played an important part - but not the cause.

At the end of the day (about lunchtime in your case ) you are still getting full time cash (more or less) for a part time job. And that cash has to come from somewhere. and it ain't from you. HMG(however represented - Council / Pension Fund) would have been better off financially overall by keeping you on full time salary as they would not have to employ someone else to do half your job.......the reason you got the deal is simply because it's a way of 1 arm of govt moving costs onto another, same as large private sector firms do. Short term Accounting sense, long term / big picture nonsense.

On this subject you are to me like a religionista - clinging onto ignorance as a comfort blanket against reality

[stripes4]

Santa, even if you do have valid or correct points, maybe it's a 'time and a place' issue. Maybe when someone gets bad news they need just 24 hours before someone starts giving them the full economic reality check? Jus' sayin....

[Xamonas Chegwé]

I will resist telling you to stick it where the sun doesn't shine. I worked for 35 years and I draw a pension now based on the savings *I* made during those years. I work 50% of the week now and get half pay plus the pension I am owed because *I* (not the government) put the money away. Its a good deal, based on my long term commitment, their need to keep expertise in the system and my desire to slow down but not cease work. A good deal all round I would suggest.

Unfortunately central government finances seemed to have fucked things up.

You might like to be a little more confident in what you are talking about before posting bollocks.

I know for a fact that the money you contributed to your pension will not go anywhere near meeting the cost of your pension (if you live as long as average). The balance has / will come from HMG. The fact that HMG made some really crap deals is not your personal concern, and I don't criticise you or anyone else for taking advatage of ignorance and stupidity (hey, it's business ) but I do find your willingness to self delude so very typical of the financial illiteracy that helped the country fall off a cliff economically. and not to understand that the Country hasn't hit reality yet. And no, it wasn't all the fault of "the bankers" - kinda like blaming the SS for Hitler or WWII, played an important part - but not the cause.

At the end of the day (about lunchtime in your case ) you are still getting full time cash (more or less) for a part time job. And that cash has to come from somewhere. and it ain't from you. HMG(however represented - Council / Pension Fund) would have been better off financially overall by keeping you on full time salary as they would not have to employ someone else to do half your job.......the reason you got the deal is simply because it's a way of 1 arm of govt moving costs onto another, same as large private sector firms do. Short term Accounting sense, long term / big picture nonsense.

On this subject you are to me like a religionista - clinging onto ignorance as a comfort blanket against reality

Does your arse do any other tricks, besides talking? The alternative to Rum working half hours (for half pay) alongside claiming his pension is that he does no work at all but still claims that pension. How is he being any kind of a drain by doing work that is useful for the going rate for the hours he works?

Just admit you are wrong and move on please.

[Santa_Claus]

Fucking hell you are charmer and you are talking bollocks.

I thank you

How about you attack the bankers who got us in this shit in the first place

The Bankers were one of the enablers, but not the underlying cause. Life is too short to explain, as those who haven't grasped the basics this far into the economic restructuring of the UK (it's not a recession or a depression - both meaningless terms) have clearly chosen ignorance. and nothing wrong with that - because fook all you can do about it anyway

instead of teaching assistants who are loosing their jobs at our local school. Meals on wheels are being cut, support for pensioners and the poor are being hit in York. Like Rum our council is cutting 600 jobs, jobs that make life bearable for a lot of folk.

I may (or may not) agree with you that the Council does stuff that people need. But hard truth is ain't the money to go on paying for a wish list of nice things (leaving aside whether (?!!) done efficiently). Unless you have the cash spare? I don't.

[Santa_Claus]

Does your arse do any other tricks, besides talking? The alternative to Rum working half hours (for half pay) alongside claiming his pension is that he does no work at all but still claims that pension. How is he being any kind of a drain by doing work that is useful for the going rate for the hours he works?

Just admit you are wrong and move on please.

Nice one. Miss the bigger picture. Do you work for the Council?

Salaried Benefit Scroungers

[Xamonas Chegwé]

The Bankers were one of the enablers, but not the underlying cause. Life is too short to explain, as those who haven't grasped the basics this far into the economic restructuring of the UK (it's not a recession or a depression - both meaningless terms) have clearly chosen ignorance. and nothing wrong with that - because fook all you can do about it anyway

Ah. The old "I know more about it than you do but don't have time to explain and besides, you wouldn't understand it anyway" fallacy. Perleeeeaaaase!

[Santa_Claus]

Santa, even if you do have valid or correct points, maybe it's a 'time and a place' issue. Maybe when someone gets bad news they need just 24 hours before someone starts giving them the full economic reality check? Jus' sayin....

I thought Rum had been banging on about the "surprise" cuts for quite a while. Can't remember exactly who he was blaming, but pretty sure it was "someone else"

On your news, I suspect you have the wit to deal with it and move on.

[Pensioner]

[klr]

The details of some of our cuts (and tax hikes) are going to get published today ... the first of many.

[Pensioner]

The details of some of our cuts (and tax hikes) are going to get published today ... the first of many.

I hope your job is safe.

[klr]

The details of some of our cuts (and tax hikes) are going to get published today ... the first of many.

I hope your job is safe.

My jobs, my savings and just about everything else. I watched a horror show late last night presided over by a panel of economists, and it was X-rated stuff ...