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Fighting Social Darwinists
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Red Katie
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Re: Fighting Social Darwinists
"Her eye was on the sparrow. Her mind was on the dove,
But no one cared and no one dared to speak to her of love.
Her eyes are always hooded. Her claws are sharp as steel.
We teach her not to see too much. We teach her not to feel."
But no one cared and no one dared to speak to her of love.
Her eyes are always hooded. Her claws are sharp as steel.
We teach her not to see too much. We teach her not to feel."
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Chinaski
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Re: Fighting Social Darwinists
No Dumbledore! 
Is there for honest poverty
That hangs his heid and a' that
The coward slave, we pass him by
We dare be puir for a' that.
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That hangs his heid and a' that
The coward slave, we pass him by
We dare be puir for a' that.
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Xamonas Chegwé
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Re: Fighting Social Darwinists
I could happily imagine no George Michael or Graham Norton. Just saying... 
A book is a version of the world. If you do not like it, ignore it; or offer your own version in return.
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Paco
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Calilasseia
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Twoflower
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Millefleur
Salman Rushdie
You talk to God, you're religious. God talks to you, you're psychotic.
House MD
Who needs a meaning anyway, I'd settle anyday for a very fine view.
Sandy Denny
This is the wrong forum for bluffing
Paco
Yes, yes. But first I need to show you this venomous fish!
Calilasseia
I think we should do whatever Pawiz wants.
Twoflower
Bella squats momentarily then waddles on still peeing, like a horse
Millefleur
Re: Fighting Social Darwinists
Yeah and an end to ABBA and kitch ,still if all those gay blokes started chasing girls we wouldn't stand a chance ,they can dress properly .
Give me the wine , I don't need the bread
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Xamonas Chegwé
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Re: Fighting Social Darwinists
The image of Darwin has been bolted on to just about every movement that has emerged since OOS was first published (or at least, since it was first bastardised by Herbert Spencer - he who actually coined the phrase 'survival of the fittest'.)
Fascists, socialists, communists, conservatives, monetarists and even anarchists have all claimed Darwinian sanction for there theories over the years - and still do. They are all, in my onion, dead wrong. Evolution does not act upon societies in a comparable manner to that in which it acts upon species. There is no gene for 'rich'!
The social Darwinists' claims come directly from Spencer's idea that humanitarianism allowed 'weak' elements to survive in society which hampered the evolution of that society as a whole, whereas leaving those elements to find their own way out of their situations, or else die, strengthened the society. Spencer's ideas of social evolution were based more on Lamarckian ideas than Darwinian - his weak elements striving to become strong resemble Lamarck's giraffes stretching to reach higher leaves. His idea of an evolving society meant one that strived for progress - there is no striving in Darwin's ideas - survive, or survive not, there is no strive.
Fascists, socialists, communists, conservatives, monetarists and even anarchists have all claimed Darwinian sanction for there theories over the years - and still do. They are all, in my onion, dead wrong. Evolution does not act upon societies in a comparable manner to that in which it acts upon species. There is no gene for 'rich'!
The social Darwinists' claims come directly from Spencer's idea that humanitarianism allowed 'weak' elements to survive in society which hampered the evolution of that society as a whole, whereas leaving those elements to find their own way out of their situations, or else die, strengthened the society. Spencer's ideas of social evolution were based more on Lamarckian ideas than Darwinian - his weak elements striving to become strong resemble Lamarck's giraffes stretching to reach higher leaves. His idea of an evolving society meant one that strived for progress - there is no striving in Darwin's ideas - survive, or survive not, there is no strive.
A book is a version of the world. If you do not like it, ignore it; or offer your own version in return.
Salman Rushdie
You talk to God, you're religious. God talks to you, you're psychotic.
House MD
Who needs a meaning anyway, I'd settle anyday for a very fine view.
Sandy Denny
This is the wrong forum for bluffing
Paco
Yes, yes. But first I need to show you this venomous fish!
Calilasseia
I think we should do whatever Pawiz wants.
Twoflower
Bella squats momentarily then waddles on still peeing, like a horse
Millefleur
Salman Rushdie
You talk to God, you're religious. God talks to you, you're psychotic.
House MD
Who needs a meaning anyway, I'd settle anyday for a very fine view.
Sandy Denny
This is the wrong forum for bluffing
Paco
Yes, yes. But first I need to show you this venomous fish!
Calilasseia
I think we should do whatever Pawiz wants.
Twoflower
Bella squats momentarily then waddles on still peeing, like a horse
Millefleur
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Red Katie
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Re: Fighting Social Darwinists
Yeah. I could do without John Maynard Keynes.Xamonas Chegwé wrote:I could happily imagine no George Michael or Graham Norton. Just saying...
"Her eye was on the sparrow. Her mind was on the dove,
But no one cared and no one dared to speak to her of love.
Her eyes are always hooded. Her claws are sharp as steel.
We teach her not to see too much. We teach her not to feel."
But no one cared and no one dared to speak to her of love.
Her eyes are always hooded. Her claws are sharp as steel.
We teach her not to see too much. We teach her not to feel."
Re: Fighting Social Darwinists
Tangent about Keynesian economic theory split to here: http://rationalia.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=1662
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