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Mental illness, social disorders, treatment and recovery

Post by Dries van Tonder » Fri Nov 12, 2010 5:47 pm

Here's something I posted on RatSkep, on a similar thread. I edited it somewhat, substituting the word regression with remission. (Was a bit intoxicated at the time, couldn't find the right word). Interesting topic though :drunk: :smoke:

I've suffered from depression since childhood. I can remember those dark periods, sometimes lasting two to three years quite well. At that stage, the doctors merely told my parents that my "system" was off balance (whatever that meant). I never got treatment for it. As an adult, I sought help many times and was put on on anti-depressants periodically for most of my adult life. I remember my doctor telling me that I had to go for more intensive treatment, otherwise I will reach a breaking point where I will totally collapse, psychologically as well as physically. I dismissed his warnings to my detriment. About two years ago, the total collapse happened. My mind had shut down completely, and my body followed suit. I couldn't walk more than a couple of paces without collapsing. At that point, I was seriously considering suicide as an option. Fortunately, I had a long time aquaintance who's a psychologist, and went to see her. She immediately arranged for me to be admitted admitted to a step-down (treatment only) hospital where they specialize in treating depression. I can remember arriving there, barely able to walk.

I stayed there for two and a half weeks. The treatment program consisted of two weeks of lectures, sessions with psychiatrists, psychologists and occupational therapists. They cover everything from physical causes, such as hormone imbalances to psychological causes, and personality type related causes; and teach you how to deal with it.

However, the prognosis from my psychiatrist was not good. In his first meeting with me he was astounded, saying that I had suffered from complete psychiatric neglect for all of my life. As I've had more than two major depressive episodes, the likelyhood of me ever recovering was exceedingly slim. He would only be able to declare after three years, if I hadn't slipped back into depression, that my depression was in "remission". It's been two years now, and I've only suffered about three or four shortlived episodes (6 - 12 hours) of depression. I am on medication for both depression and anxiety, and it seems to work, without side-effects (i'm not in la-la land, however ). And I'm confident that I'll make a complete recovery.

Which brings me to something else: Social anxiety disorder. I find social interaction with even close friends exhausting. I'm not able to handle it, except for short periods of time, maximum two hours, else it leaves me drained. It started when I was an adolescent, about sixteen years of age. At that stage, I craved the acceptance of my father, to validate me as a human being (the background to this needs another post alltogether). Unfortunately, it didn't happen. Instead, at a family meeting to discuss problems, my father declared that he couldn't stand me. It devestated me.I decided however that I would prove to him that I was worthy by entering the same branch of the army as he did, and become an officer. At that stage we had compulsory military service, so gaining entrance was easy. However, I failed miserably and attempted suicide three times, with various methods. That reinforced the feeling of being unworthy as a human being. The whole issue was clinched when I went to university, and found that the same auhoritarian approach that ruled the military was also present in civil society (this was South Africa in the early 1980's).

The result of this was debilitating. I was unable to speak fluently. As soon as I started to say something, the muscles in my jaw would malfunction, twitching uncontrollably.I learned, recently, that this is called oromandibular dystonia. Whilst there is treatment for it, it seems to be effective rarely. It's also a condition that waxes and wanes; stress increases it, as do illness. One or two times per year it gets so bad that I can hardly speak at all.

I've realised though, that the trigger for this condition lies in the "unworthyness" aspect. I think that the moment I think about anything that could validate my worth as a human being, my brain cuts out and shuts of anything that might represent me as worthy or intelligent to the rest of society. Realising the problem though, does not present the solution. I think it will take a lot of time, patience and excercise to overcome it, taking into acount that it's been with me for the last thirty years. But I'm confident that I will overcome it :tup: :tup: :tup:
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Post by Rum » Fri Nov 12, 2010 6:02 pm

Wow Dries - what a story. It sounds like a horrible set of things to have to cope with! And you are coping it seems from what you say, so that's the good news!

One thing you don't mention. perhaps you have just not included it, but are you doing any 'talking therapies' with anyone about the father thing? They are a bit out of fashion these days but I am a firm believer that when there is an identified issue - your dad's overt rejection in this case, they have a place.

Good luck in any case and may your confidence be justified.

And thank you for sharing so much of yourself!

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Post by Sælir » Fri Nov 12, 2010 6:07 pm

I have to say that you have made amazing progress from the way you described you were and since you have overcome all of this I am sure you are right in the fact that you will overcome this all eventually.

Unfortunately I know where you are coming from and I know it isn´t easy but I too am sure that it is possible and one day I will also overcome my problems.

Best of luck to you and thanks for sharing :hugs:
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Post by Feck » Fri Nov 12, 2010 6:09 pm

Please Pm me when I'm not in a mess Dries , I also would recommend you speak to the Dawtor about this.

From your posts I think you are one of the most worthwhile people I "know" Seeking validation from people people that do not understand you is a painful way to go ,Remember what you are doing is asking for validation from the people that probably messed you up in the first place (either nature or nurture )
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Post by Dries van Tonder » Fri Nov 12, 2010 7:00 pm

Thanks for your posts. I really appreciate it :smoke: :smoke:
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Post by floppit » Fri Nov 12, 2010 8:34 pm

Christ! You have had a rough time but I love that you're determined to overcome it.

Whenever i've read things about the effectiveness of treatments and chances of recovery i've always been curious what would happen if they looked at them alongside language comprehension. I don't know but suspect that those more able to both understand and express themselves, given the right tools, would be far more successful in recovery.

In the last few decades we've made leaps in understanding the human brain and mind. Despite the nay sayers, I think concepts such as neuroplasticity are truly a new dawn and while there's a huge way to go, for anyone wishing to improve what they have upstairs, it's definitely offering new hopes.

I really wish you well.

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Post by Feck » Fri Nov 12, 2010 8:36 pm

Dries van Tonder wrote:Thanks for your posts. I really appreciate it :smoke: :smoke:

You have no idea the stuff I had to deal with today ,and there will be more to come :cry:
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Post by charlou » Sat Nov 13, 2010 12:56 am

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Post by Dries van Tonder » Sat Nov 13, 2010 12:24 pm

Looking back, I think I was fortunate to have suffered that total collapse two years ago; although at the time I felt horrible. It caused me to receive proper, effective and comprehensive treatment for depression for the first time in my life. I can remember thinking to myself, about a month after I was released from hospital: "Why did you drag yourself through the hell of depression for such a long time? It was so unnecessary." By employing the techniques taught at the hospital and using the medication prescribed by the psychiatrist, I've been able to live a normal, happy life since then.

As for the social anxiety, I've started working on it and am already experiencing positive results and improvement.

Thanks again for the nice replies :D :D :tup: :tup:
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Post by Elessarina » Sat Nov 13, 2010 12:32 pm

Dries.. I have suffered myself from a period of depression but came through it stronger than I was before. I know the darkness is there but i won't let it catch me again.

I hope you feel that way too. And you're a worthy and wonderful member of our Ratz family..hopefully one day you might make a meet you'd feel right at home :hugs:

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Post by Dries van Tonder » Sat Nov 13, 2010 12:36 pm

Elessarina wrote:Dries.. I have suffered myself from a period of depression but came through it stronger than I was before. I know the darkness is there but i won't let it catch me again.

I hope you feel that way too. And you're a worthy and wonderful member of our Ratz family..hopefully one day you might make a meet you'd feel right at home :hugs:
Thanks! :hugs: :tup:
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Post by hiyymer » Wed Nov 17, 2010 11:26 am

Dries van Tonder wrote: I've realised though, that the trigger for this condition lies in the "unworthyness" aspect. I think that the moment I think about anything that could validate my worth as a human being, my brain cuts out and shuts of anything that might represent me as worthy or intelligent to the rest of society. Realising the problem though, does not present the solution. I think it will take a lot of time, patience and excercise to overcome it, taking into acount that it's been with me for the last thirty years. But I'm confident that I will overcome it :tup: :tup: :tup:
Thanks for sharing. It's interesting isn't it. You can't change the reaction, but you can distinguish it happening. That's all it seems to take. I think back at all the stupid things I've done and said in that moment of panic. But if I distinguish the feeling in the moment it opens up new possibilities.

The other thing I've come to understand is that I was living all my relationships through my relationship with my father, it sitting there in front of me prejudicing all my reactions, instead of leaving it in the past. Unconditional love was never available to me, until I got by that.

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Post by Feck » Wed Nov 17, 2010 11:47 am

I always know when I'm messing things up ,I can almost feel my brain trying to hide from it, screaming in a corner .It's sort of feels like smoking I know by every rational thought that I shouldn't BUT I also know I'm reaching for another one.

Going out was so hard yesterday if I hadn't told some of the Ratz I was going to do it I wouldn't have done gone .
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Post by Millefleur » Wed Nov 17, 2010 11:58 am

Aww Dries :hugs: I find talking candidly and laying it all out helps a lot, although I cannot do it face to face, so the internet has been a big help.

I've not heard of social anxiety disorder, I'm wondering if I should look it up but then I'll probably convince myself I've got it :hehe: I couldn't look anyone in the eye today on the school run andfor some reason my hands looked huge. Bizarre.
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