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Shutter Island Spoiler thread.

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Wed Mar 03, 2010 12:36 pm

Anybody else seen this? What did you think of the ending?
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Re: Shutter Island Spoiler thread.

Post by MissingNo. » Wed Mar 03, 2010 12:40 pm

Man, two Dicaprio threads back-to-back? You must be a huge fan! I don't really feel like/don't have time to discuss it in detail but it was a tired cop-out that retrospectively turned all the fun, clever power struggles into white noise. May discuss further when I have a bit of time.

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Re: Shutter Island Spoiler thread.

Post by kiki5711 » Wed Mar 03, 2010 12:42 pm

wait a minute, I've been waiting to see that! What happened to it?

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Re: Shutter Island Spoiler thread.

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Wed Mar 03, 2010 12:44 pm

heyzeus wrote:Man, two Dicaprio threads back-to-back? You must be a huge fan! I don't really feel like/don't have time to discuss it in detail but it was a tired cop-out that retrospectively turned all the fun, clever power struggles into white noise. May discuss further when I have a bit of time.
The Hubble thread was despite the fact that De Crap Io was involved. I plan to bring a device and listen to Pink Floyd during that show. Darkside of the Moon was MADE for that.

As for Shutter Island, they could have done better by making its a McCarthyist nightmare rather than a personal tragedy for "our hero", no?
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Wed Mar 03, 2010 12:45 pm

kiki5711 wrote:wait a minute, I've been waiting to see that! What happened to it?
If you haven't seen it, get out of this thread immediately, it will ruin the movie. That's why I put "spoiler" in the subject line. :whisper:
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Re: Shutter Island Spoiler thread.

Post by kiki5711 » Wed Mar 03, 2010 12:47 pm

Gawdzilla wrote:
kiki5711 wrote:wait a minute, I've been waiting to see that! What happened to it?
If you haven't seen it, get out of this thread immediately, it will ruin the movie. That's why I put "spoiler" in the subject line. :whisper:
Ok, :leave:

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Re: Shutter Island Spoiler thread.

Post by MissingNo. » Wed Mar 03, 2010 12:58 pm

Gawdzilla wrote:
heyzeus wrote:Man, two Dicaprio threads back-to-back? You must be a huge fan! I don't really feel like/don't have time to discuss it in detail but it was a tired cop-out that retrospectively turned all the fun, clever power struggles into white noise. May discuss further when I have a bit of time.
The Hubble thread was despite the fact that De Crap Io was involved. I plan to bring a device and listen to Pink Floyd during that show. Darkside of the Moon was MADE for that.

As for Shutter Island, they could have done better by making its a McCarthyist nightmare rather than a personal tragedy for "our hero", no?
He also could have dropped the social parallels, sophomoric dream sequences and played the film completely straight as a man trying to piece together facts and cling to sanity on an island of madmen and psychopaths. The film relies heavily on simple genre-film fun anyway and that's where its strengths lie.

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Re: Shutter Island Spoiler thread.

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Wed Mar 03, 2010 1:01 pm

heyzeus wrote:
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heyzeus wrote:Man, two Dicaprio threads back-to-back? You must be a huge fan! I don't really feel like/don't have time to discuss it in detail but it was a tired cop-out that retrospectively turned all the fun, clever power struggles into white noise. May discuss further when I have a bit of time.
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As for Shutter Island, they could have done better by making its a McCarthyist nightmare rather than a personal tragedy for "our hero", no?
He also could have dropped the social parallels, sophomoric dream sequences and played the film completely straight as a man trying to piece together facts and cling to sanity on an island of madmen and psychopaths. The film relies heavily on simple genre-film fun anyway and that's where its strengths lie.
I was hoping he would "prove" his theory rather than it being part of his delusion. That reduced it to another "madman's fantasies" movie.
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Post by MissingNo. » Wed Mar 03, 2010 1:13 pm

Worse than that, he pulled the foundations from under the film and everything crumbled. All the paranoia, mind games and struggles against tyranny get reframed as a therapy session. The previous scenes are now flattened and uninteresting. It was a cheap trick in service of nothing.

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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Wed Mar 03, 2010 1:17 pm

heyzeus wrote:Worse than that, he pulled the foundations from under the film and everything crumbled. All the paranoia, mind games and struggles against tyranny get reframed as a therapy session. The previous scenes are now flattened and uninteresting. It was a cheap trick in service of nothing.
I wonder if they copped out at last moment or if they're planning on having an "alternate ending" on the DVD?
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Re: Shutter Island Spoiler thread.

Post by MissingNo. » Wed Mar 03, 2010 1:24 pm

I don't imagine Scorsese would do such a thing. This was probably planned from the beginning.

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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Wed Mar 03, 2010 1:29 pm

heyzeus wrote:I don't imagine Scorsese would do such a thing. This was probably planned from the beginning.
That makes it worse, IMNSHO.
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Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Wed Mar 03, 2010 1:53 pm

heyzeus wrote:I don't imagine Scorsese would do such a thing. This was probably planned from the beginning.
It's based on a book by Dennis Lehane (who also wrote Mystic River) with the same ending (more or less,) so I expect it was very much planned from the beginning.
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Re: Shutter Island Spoiler thread.

Post by cowiz » Wed Mar 03, 2010 1:55 pm

It was close to "And Bobby walked out of the shower - oh my it was all a dream, you're not dead after all Bobby".
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Re: Shutter Island Spoiler thread.

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Wed Mar 03, 2010 1:55 pm

pawiz wrote:It was close to "And Bobby walked out of the shower - oh my it was all a dream, you're not dead after all Bobby".
"And then the little boy fell out of bed and woke up."
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