Iran Warns US to Stay Out of Persian Gulf, or Else.

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Re: Iran Warns US to Stay Out of Persian Gulf, or Else.

Post by Atheist-Lite » Mon Jan 09, 2012 5:05 pm

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Svartalf wrote:As to the US having balls, I'd rather call it sense. Bush sent the US military in Iraq mostly to provide side benefits to Halliburton, Blackwater, and other cronies of his veep. The Afghan thing was pure idiocy, as the current state of things ten years later shows well...
The initial year or two of limited intervention incapacitated Al Qaeda core, which was arguably a good idea. Sticking around after that was questionable, and the 2009 escalation and attempts at nation building since were, yes, idiotic.

If you want the oil and don't want to pay for it then why use messy, costly war? The British Empire was built on the opium trade and smallpox blankets. :smoke:
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Metaphorically smallpox blankets, metaphorically trade....westerners carried countless diseases that native peoples hadn't immunity to... :smoke:
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Mon Jan 09, 2012 5:06 pm

And vice versa.
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Post by Atheist-Lite » Mon Jan 09, 2012 5:09 pm

Gawdzilla wrote:And vice versa.
Undermine their social fabric, corrupt their youth with cheap anti-authoritarian music....it may take a little longer than dropping a MOAB but you have a consumer market and intact relations afterwards? :smoke:
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Gawdzilla wrote:And vice versa.
Undermine their social fabric, corrupt their youth with cheap anti-authoritarian music....it may take a little longer than dropping a MOAB but you have a consumer market and intact relations afterwards? :smoke:
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Post by Tero » Mon May 04, 2026 12:48 pm

2026: Google AI
Confirmed ship-to-ship EngagementsSeizure of MV Touska (April 19, 2026): The guided-missile destroyer USS Spruance intercepted the Iranian-flagged cargo ship Touska in the Gulf of Oman. After the vessel ignored warnings to stop, U.S. forces fired on its engine room to disable it. U.S. Marines subsequently boarded and took custody of the ship, which was targeted for violating the naval blockade on Iranian ports.Sinking of Iranian Assets (March 2026): During Operation Epic Fury, U.S. officials reported taking out over 20 Iranian ships. Specifically, on March 1, the forward base ship IRIS Makran was reportedly targeted by Tomahawk missiles; while some sources claim it was sunk, satellite imagery suggests it may have remained afloat.Unverified or Denied ClaimsReported Strike on U.S. Frigate (May 4, 2026): Iranian state media claimed that two missiles hit a U.S. Navy frigate near the port of Jask, forcing it to retreat. However, U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM) explicitly denied these reports, stating that "no U.S. Navy ships have been struck" while they continue to enforce the blockade under Project Freedom.
Alleged Attack on USS Abraham Lincoln (March 25, 2026): Iran claimed to have struck the aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln with shore-launched cruise missiles. The U.S. military rejected this, confirming the carrier remained fully operational.Commercial Shipping AttacksApril 18-20, 2026: In retaliation for U.S. actions, Iran reportedly seized two cargo ships and fired on an Indian tanker in the Strait of Hormuz.May 3, 2026: A cargo ship was reportedly attacked east of the Strait of Hormuz near Sirik, Iran, though Iran denied direct involvement, claiming it was a routine document check.Would you like more details on the specific U.S. warships currently stationed in the Persian Gulf to enforce this blockade?12 sitesU.S. seizes Iranian cargo ship in Strait of HormuzApr 19, 2026 — KQED. Listen LiveKQED Listen Live. U.S. seizes Iranian cargo ship in Strait of Hormuz The U.S. has taken custody of an Iranian-fla...NPRIran did not hit a US Navy ship near Strait of Hormuz, US official tells 'Post'May 4, 2026 — The denial comes after Iran's Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC)-aligned Fars News Agency claimed that two missiles had hit a United...The Jerusalem PostUS seizure of Iran vessel near Strait of Hormuz leaves ...Apr 20, 2026
Key Tactics and Strategies:U.S. Navy: Operates Carrier Strike Groups in the Arabian Sea, focusing on enforcing sanctions, protecting shipping lanes, and enforcing blockade orders.Iran: Employs asymmetric naval warfare, using small, fast speedboats, sea mines, anti-ship missiles, and potentially drone technology to offset U.S. conventional superiority.
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Re: Iran Warns US to Stay Out of Persian Gulf, or Else.

Post by pErvinalia » Mon May 04, 2026 2:59 pm

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Those jackasses didn't pay close enough attention to what we did to Saddam's military and what we will therefore do to Iran's military if they push this too far. Our carrier will go back to the Persian Gulf when it's damned good and ready to go, escorted by a full battle group (or two or three) and with all the backup it needs to vaporize Iraq's military capacity inside of 48 hours just like we did in Iraq. Meanwhile, our navy is puttering about while we collect intel on where to send the cruise missiles first, second, third, fourth and so on.

I kinda hope those stupid motherfuckers give us an excuse to send Ahmadinejad and his entire government directly to Allah, do not pass go, do not collect $200 rials.

This time, however, we need to use the Libyan model: Go in, bomb the fuck out of everything, turn it back into a stone-age shithole and then leave. No fucking nation-rebuilding for Iran, just death, destruction and horror rained down from above in full measure every time they rattle anything, until they learn not to stick their heads out of their holes without asking permission first.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Mon May 04, 2026 5:46 pm

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Post by Tero » Mon May 04, 2026 8:53 pm

We do remember Seth driving a Google car in NY. He could have replaced Trump then.
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Re: Iran Warns US to Stay Out of Persian Gulf, or Else.

Post by JimC » Wed May 06, 2026 12:40 am

I've had a crazy idea about how to break the blockade of the Straits. A mad stampede out of the Gulf by all the stuck ships, as close to each other as possible. Just like a school of fish, the predators (Iran in this case) will only have the opportunity to nail one of two, particularly if the US military is providing covering fire!
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Post by Tero » Wed May 06, 2026 1:46 am

Jim, this is the "how many drones do they have?" experiment.
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