All Things Trump: the story continues...

[Sean Hayden]

Wordle in 3. No pain or discomfort from operation.

Just brain fog from the meds then --wrong thread! I'm glad you're doing well Mac.

[Tero]

Jojo rants on jan 6th
https://www.threads.net/@jojo.fromjerz/ ... 8B-9b1ygDA

[Tero]

In 2019, the Migration Policy Institute estimated that 5.5 million children under age 18 lived with at least one parent in the country illegally in 2019, representing 7% of the U.S. child population. The vast majority of those children were U.S. citizens.
But some have argued that the 1898 case clearly applied to children born of parents who are both legal immigrants to America but that it's less clear whether it applies to children born to parents without legal status or, for example, who come for a short-term like a tourist visa.

“That is the leading case on this. In fact, it’s the only case on this,” said Andrew Arthur, a fellow at the Center for Immigration Studies.
He gave a lot more details in a 2023 post on his campaign website. In it, he said he would issue an executive order the first day of his presidency, making it clear that federal agencies “require that at least one parent be a U.S. citizen or lawful permanent resident for their future children to become automatic U.S. citizens.”

Trump wrote that the executive order would make clear that children of people in the U.S. illegally “should not be issued passports, Social Security numbers, or be eligible for certain taxpayer funded welfare benefits.”

This would almost certainly end up in litigation.

https://news.yahoo.com/trump-promises-e ... 09231.html

[Tyrannical]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trump- ... -1.7406226

But it's an endearing taunt, Trump wouldn't be willing to annex anyone he didn't like AND he called Canada great

[Tero]

[Tero]

Kids in cages Stephen ready:
"Everything in the world is gonna change on January 20" -- Tim Miller on his pod today flagged this clip of Stephen Miller outlining Trump's hardline immigration policies, including using the military for deportations. It's a sobering watch.
https://www.threads.net/@aaron.rupar/po ... dAcHWPp-dg

[Sean Hayden]

I’ve been looking into ways to resist this move. It doesn’t help that it’s actually popular.

[Tero]

Trump will declare an emergency and will get SC to approve it. No more Congress. Only for impeachment.

aaron.rupar
7m7 minutes ago
New in PN: Trump plots to steal Congress's budget authority
"Will his legislative allies willingly surrender their power over the budget to him and his the DOGE bros? Will the Supreme Court let him shout “EMERGENCY!” and declare endemic problems like deficits and immigration to be crises that justify trampling the separation of powers completely? And if they do, will Americans even notice or care?"
https://www.threads.net/@aaron.rupar/po ... ebsbZExRRA

[Tero]

Trump talks anarchy in 2020

[Sean Hayden]

Is the assumption that capitalism is bolted on, and once removed a healthier more natural state of affairs can be allowed to thrive? Because I suspect being human just ain’t all that conducive to thriving communities, at least not in the sense most people have in mind when they say that sort of thing. But maybe capitalism has just warped ma mind.

Perhaps

I think his thrust isn't so much that capitalism bad (tho that's my take!), but that Society is how we care for each other and ourselves, and Economy is just the material means by which we do that. When Economy doesn't allow us to do the care Society, and therefore us, start to break down. He uses the idea of perfection to examine what it is we really want and need to lead healthier more fulfilling lives.

It sounds interesting. The bias I carry into these sorts of discussions is the belief that there is an enormous disconnect between how we think of ourselves, and how we are, especially in groups. I can accept that we have created systems which work against our best interest. But when you consider our best interest to be some version of a thriving healthy individual, then I would caution that we carry within us enough baggage to ensure that many people never realize this, regardless of how we "choose" to organize societies. That's never an argument in favor of the status quo though; it's just an observation, I think.

Could we call this a kind of 'spiritual crisis' then - both at a personal level and at the community level?

I'm still not sure how to approach this one. I think by spiritual here you're referring to something like ethos and I can probably agree, as I do tend to see the issue as being something like an identity crisis.

[Tero]

Catch of the day:
Now, now, remember: it's unfair to judge Trump by the things he says. Or the things he does. Or the things he says he does but doesn't do. Or the things he does but says he doesn't.

[Tero]

Likely outcome, including drunken Pentagon chief.
https://www.threads.net/@aaron.rupar/po ... ujWmm6LTwg
Rick Scott on CNBC says all of Trump's nominees will be confirmed, even if they have to be recess appointments

[Brian Peacock]

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Could we call this a kind of 'spiritual crisis' then - both at a personal level and at the community level?

I'm still not sure how to approach this one. I think by spiritual here you're referring to something like ethos and I can probably agree, as I do tend to see the issue as being something like an identity crisis.

Yeah, 'ethos' and 'identity' are good terms.

I'm spitballing broadly of course, but I'm thinking of something like a loss or shift in the belief of, or at least a challenge to some kind of connection to, previously held values and ideas. The sense of being overwhelmed by events perhaps, or over-stimulated by information, or of being over-sensitised &/or overreacting to actual or perceived dangers or threats, all of which might bring emotions to the fore and counteract or dominate more prosaic or pragmatic, more rational considerations. I guess I reached for 'spiritual crisis' because I couldn't find another term that encapsulated the sense of personal and societal turmoil and overload that seem to prevail atm.

[Tero]

Kash Patel, the new Hoover.

allinwithchris
1mabout a minute ago
“We’re seeing naked announcements that the bureau is going to be used as a political weapon,” says Pulitzer-prize winning historian Beverly Gage and author of “G Man: J. Edgar Hoover and the Making of the American Century."

[Tero]

Kelli meme about Harris and Trump
https://www.threads.net/@kelli.a.1111/p ... EFDyvwLlCg