The Coronavirus Thread

[JimC]

I do listen to conservative media types. Most of them are pro-vaccine (at least this set)

I'm not sure who you mean, but even those who are against it, rationally or rabidly, haven't changed my mind.

...or were you thinking of others when you said 'ill-educated'?

It remains a fact that vaccine uptake is dramatically down (by comparison) in US states and counties that voted for Trump. It sure as hell quacks like a duck...

[Tero]

With no mandates, we have a 90 000 Garth Brooks concert at the football stadium tomorrow.

[laklak]

What could possibly go wrong?

[pErvinalia]

All of NSW going into lockdown in 2 hours. Was due to go to QLD to see the kids tomorrow, so not sure if that's allowed now.

[Sean Hayden]

And cdc world only makes a vaccine mandatory is if there were NO other cures. There are....hydroxychloroquin and ivermectin...but of course the agenda of those in delusionary control who hide the truth... is for something other than our health. They don’t care!!! It’s up to us! Research what you are submitting to.

.... responding to a post encouraging everyone to get vaccinated.

[JimC]

All of NSW going into lockdown in 2 hours. Was due to go to QLD to see the kids tomorrow, so not sure if that's allowed now.

We remain locked down, can only contact the boys and Tilly via Skype...

[Cunt]

I do listen to conservative media types. Most of them are pro-vaccine (at least this set)

I'm not sure who you mean, but even those who are against it, rationally or rabidly, haven't changed my mind.

...or were you thinking of others when you said 'ill-educated'?

It remains a fact that vaccine uptake is dramatically down (by comparison) in US states and counties that voted for Trump. It sure as hell quacks like a duck...

How did Trump's 'warp speed' vaccine do in Aus?

Or is there another reason for low uptake there?

[Hermit]

How did Trump's 'warp speed' vaccine do in Aus?

Or is there another reason for low uptake there?

"Another" reason?

It's simply this:



Unfortunately, the actually existing Pfizer's and Astra/Seneca's vaccines are hard to come by in Australia because of our incompetent and uncaring show pony of a Prime Minister.

[JimC]

I do listen to conservative media types. Most of them are pro-vaccine (at least this set)

I'm not sure who you mean, but even those who are against it, rationally or rabidly, haven't changed my mind.

...or were you thinking of others when you said 'ill-educated'?

It remains a fact that vaccine uptake is dramatically down (by comparison) in US states and counties that voted for Trump. It sure as hell quacks like a duck...

How did Trump's 'warp speed' vaccine do in Aus?

Or is there another reason for low uptake there?

As Hermit said, it's not a low uptake (the latest poll shows that only 7% will definitely refuse a vaccine) but poor vaccine procurement decisions early on by our incompetent federal government. Supplies are now building, and we should reach 75% or so in November.

And, as always, you did not comment on the fact of a lot of vaccine refusal by the Republican right...

[Scot Dutchy]

The vaccine that was developed in Leiden is popular under the youth as only one jab is required.
The Janssen Vaccine was developed for a subsidiary of Johnson and Johnson.

Janssen COVID-19 vaccine
The Janssen COVID-19 vaccine or Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 vaccine is a COVID-19 vaccine that was developed by Janssen Vaccines in Leiden, Netherlands, and its Belgian parent company Janssen Pharmaceuticals, subsidiary of American company Johnson & Johnson. It is a viral vector vaccine based on a human adenovirus that has been modified to contain the gene for making the spike protein of the SARS-CoV-2 virus that causes COVID-19. The body's immune system responds to this spike protein to produce antibodies. The vaccine requires only one dose and does not need to be stored frozen. Clinical trials for the vaccine were started in June 2020, with Phase III involving around 43,000 people. On 29 January 2021, Janssen announced that 28 days after a completed vaccination, the vaccine was 66% effective in a one-dose regimen in preventing symptomatic COVID-19, with an 85% efficacy in preventing severe COVID-19, and 100% efficacy in preventing hospitalization or death caused by the disease.Wikipedia

https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=jansse ... &iax=about

[Scot Dutchy]

90% of the Dutch population is willing to be vaccinated.

Vaccination turnout in the Netherlands rises to 90 percent

According to data from the government’s coronadashboard, the proportion of the Dutch population aged 16 and above that is willing to receive the coronavirus vaccine has risen to 90 percent.
Vaccination readiness amongst Dutch population

The figures for July 13 to July 19 show that so-called vaccination readiness in the Netherlands has risen to 90 percent for the first time since records began. Since September 2020, vaccination readiness amongst all age groups has been steadily rising, and when vaccinations began in January the Dutch government predicted an overall turnout of 85 percent.

The most recent data was gathered via a survey conducted between June 13 and July 19 shows a notable increase in the number of young people (aged 16 to 24) who want to be vaccinated. At the start of June, “only” 76 percent of young adults were willing to be vaccinated. This figure has now risen to 81 percent. The vaccination willingness of other age groups has been relatively stable since the start of June.

This data is significant to the government’s vaccination drive, as everyone aged 12 and above has now been invited to be vaccinated. The National Institute for Public Health and Environment (RIVM) believes a successful vaccination campaign amongst young people could play a significant role in preventing a fourth coronavirus wave in the autumn.

The Netherlands has one of the highest vaccination rates in Europe

So far, over 20 million vaccinations have taken place in the Netherlands. As of July 18, almost eight million people are fully vaccinated against COVID-19, while another four million are partially vaccinated. Health Minister Hugo de Jonge aims to have everyone fully vaccinated by September 1.

The Netherlands continues to have one of the highest vaccination rates in Europe. According to data from the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control (ECDC), 84,3 percent of the population has received at least one jab, giving the Netherlands the third-highest uptake rate in the EU. Iceland is in the lead with 90,7 percent.

Which is why mandatory vaccinations are not required here.

[Scot Dutchy]

Here is the Government's Corona Dashboard (in English):
Corona Dashboard

[Hermit]

I do listen to conservative media types. Most of them are pro-vaccine (at least this set)

I'm not sure who you mean, but even those who are against it, rationally or rabidly, haven't changed my mind.

...or were you thinking of others when you said 'ill-educated'?

It remains a fact that vaccine uptake is dramatically down (by comparison) in US states and counties that voted for Trump. It sure as hell quacks like a duck...

How did Trump's 'warp speed' vaccine do in Aus?

Or is there another reason for low uptake there?

As Hermit said, it's not a low uptake (the latest poll shows that only 7% will definitely refuse a vaccine) but poor vaccine procurement decisions early on by our incompetent federal government. Supplies are now building, and we should reach 75% or so in November.

And, as always, you did not comment on the fact of a lot of vaccine refusal by the Republican right...

Probably doesn't harmonise with his biases. Or he missed it when we mentioned it three weeks ago. I'll just roll that scatterplot out again to see if our member from Yellowknife makes a (hopefully relevant) comment this time around.



If he does not, we may see another remark relating to his current hobby-horse; laptops and prostitutes.

[Hermit]

Here is the Government's Corona Dashboard (in English):
Corona Dashboard

Fairy data.

[Brian Peacock]

And cdc world only makes a vaccine mandatory is if there were NO other cures. There are....hydroxychloroquin and ivermectin...but of course the agenda of those in delusionary control who hide the truth... is for something other than our health. They don’t care!!! It’s up to us! Research what you are submitting to.

.... responding to a post encouraging everyone to get vaccinated.

We all know if ydroxychloroquin and ivermectin were an actual treatment these people would be banging on about how it's all a scam by Big Pharma.