Vaccination: mandated and/or incentivised

[laklak]

Baby vax are mandatory here if you're going to send them to school in most states. The highest childhood vaccination rates in the U.S. is in Mississippi, of all places. They require vaccinations to utilize any state services and do not allow religious or philosophical objections. They won't hold your child down and jab them, though. Paradoxically, they have the lowest (or maybe second lowest after Alabama) rate of COVID vaccinations. It looks like mandatory vaccination policies work.

[Svartalf]

Are baby vaccinations mandatory?

They are, the baby won't be admitted to (mandatory) school if they are not vaxed. and while home schooling is not quite unheard of, it's a rarity and heavily overseen, and actively discouraged.

[JimC]

In a similar vein (pun not intended...) adult covid vaccinations will not be forced on people, it will just be that many life opportunities and certain jobs will not be available for the un-vaccinated. They will still have a choice...

[NineBerry]

You could build amphitheaters in Australia and have the unvaccinated fight against Australian wildlife for life or death.

[Scot Dutchy]

A few kangaroos should do it.

[NineBerry]

Spiders

[Scot Dutchy]

The odd snake. Salt water crock I am told are very aggressive.

[NineBerry]

We could create snakes that vaccinate people by biting them. If you don't want to be vaccinated just make sure those snakes don't get you.

[Scot Dutchy]

Why not mozzies?

[NineBerry]

[Scot Dutchy]

Great minds?

[Brian Peacock]

Where?

[laklak]

Not around here. Ain't nobody here but us chickens.

[NineBerry]

grey minds

[JimC]

Another ABC news website article about the issues surrounding "vaccine passports":

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-05/ ... /100350778

Health authorities are currently pleading with Australians to get vaccinated if they can.

But at some point later this year, once vaccines have been widely available for some time, that approach is expected to shift.

Rather than just asking Australians to get a COVID-19 vaccine, governments will start treating the vaccinated differently to the unvaccinated in an effort to make being part of the first cohort much more attractive.

The vaccinated will have more freedoms. It might mean more freedom to travel, more freedom to get together with loved ones, or even to go to football matches and concerts.

The Prime Minister argues it is a commonsense approach — that those who pose less of a risk to others be allowed to undertake riskier behaviour.

But it is also a carrot-and-stick approach: More freedoms for the vaccinated are the carrot, and more restrictions for the unvaccinated are the stick.

The shift is due to occur when parts of the country move to phase b. That is when both the Australian population reaches 70 per cent fully vaccinated, and a state wanting to move forward hits the same threshold.

It is still months off. But it will be a significant shift once it comes.

At this point, not very much.

Announcing the four-phase plan last week, Scott Morrison said "special rules" for the vaccinated were still being worked out.

"If you get vaccinated, there will be special rules that'll apply to you," he said.

"Why? Because if you're vaccinated, you present less of a public health risk. You are less likely to get the virus. You are less likely to transmit it.

"You are less likely to get a serious illness and be hospitalised, and you are less likely to die."

The Tasmanian, Victorian and the Northern Territory governments are working together on ideas for how the vaccinated could be carved out of COVID restrictions, and will bring them to National Cabinet at some point in the weeks ahead.

But plenty of ideas are already being thrown around.

One suggestion is the fully vaccinated could be made exempt from state border closures or lockdowns.

Or businesses might be given the all clear to remain open during lockdowns, but only for the fully vaccinated.

"Vaccine passports" are already in development for international travel, but their use for domestic travel is a contentious idea within the federal government.

Plenty of people inside and outside government have ideas on how the world could be opened up to the vaccinated, and leave the unvaccinated behind.

One of the most likely changes is the end of hotel quarantine for the fully vaccinated arriving into Australia from abroad.

While those who have not got the jab will still be confined to a hotel room for two weeks, the vaccinated will be permitted to quarantine at home. South Australia is about to trial a home-quarantine strategy.

And on travel, Qantas has made clear it will require passengers on international flights to be vaccinated once quarantine-free international travel eventually returns.

Lockdowns are obviously devastating for industries such as hospitality, but restaurants, bars and cafes might be allowed to keep their doors open for the vaccinated.

Innes Willox from the Australian Industry Group said businesses were keen for any shift away from lockdowns, even if that meant they could only work with vaccinated customers.

"It's very important from a range of perspectives that we try to find a new strategy," he said.

"Obviously, vaccination is going to be a key part of that strategy.

"And then, how we treat differently those that have been vaccinated or not vaccinated, that's the next step in the equation."

And if you want to head to the footy next year, you might need to prove you've had your jabs.

Venues NSW, which manage the Sydney Cricket Ground, Sydney Football Stadium, Olympic Park and other stadiums, has suggested anyone going to events such as rugby league fixtures will be required to demonstrate their vaccination status.