The Coronavirus Thread

[Brian Peacock]

The Google-Apple API is open source. Rewriting the algorithm is unnecessary unless you want to alter the way the app works. The current API operates on exposure times of 300 seconds. Increasing that number will obviously set the trigger for notifications at a longer exposure time. We don't know how Serco are using the API but the contract for allows them to develop an app that collects personal identifying metrics and to store that info for up to 20 years. This is unnecessary to operate the API. There's nothing in the contract to stop Serco from selling that data to a third party.

[NineBerry]

No. The data is not allowed to leave the device. Google and Apple do code reviews on the apps they allow to use the API to check for that.

[Brian Peacock]

No. The data is not allowed to leave the device. Google and Apple do code reviews on the apps they allow to use the API to check for that.

It depends on the app and the data. What I'm saying is that the contract with Serco for the UK app for England and Wales allows for the development of an app that collects personal identifying metrics. I'm not saying that the Google-Apple API operates on that principle - because it doesn't. I also suspect that the UK app has had it's trigger threshold deliberately extended in order to reduce the number of people requesting tests and/or taking precautionary time off work. This would be fully consistent with how the government has been operating and it's overall confused and contradictory messaging.

[NineBerry]

An app cannot use the API unless it is allowed to by Apple / Google. They have a strict requirement that data doesn't leave the device. An app not using the API will be useless because it will not be able to use Bluetooth while in the background on most devices

[NineBerry]

The German app also has increased the time span to 15 minutes because this is what the WHO uses as a definition for a level one contact.

[rainbow]

The last three days were Monday, Sunday and Saturday. There's always lower numbers on the weekend

If you believe the figures we normally have an increase on Monday but this time it dropped.

Sure, but it isn't the numbers that are dropping.

[Scot Dutchy]

Are you totally fucking stupid? Does it have to explained word for fucking word. You are losing the argument. So find some other data to misuse. Your knowledge of the virus is dismal. It must your lousy health care of your crummy country. Deaths dont respond immediately to the reduction in cases now do they? There is a delay of 10 days to two weeks before all figures start dropping flapoor.

[rainbow]

There is a delay of 10 days to two weeks before all figures start dropping flapoor.

Is this based on the RIVM figures that you've previously rejected?

[Scot Dutchy]

There is a delay of 10 days to two weeks before all figures start dropping flapoor.

Is this based on the RIVM figures that you've previously rejected?

Nope. Just based on the virus analysis.

[Brian Peacock]

What analysis? Got a link?

[pErvinalia]

You can't trust that analysis. That's what they want you to think. Trust no one!

[rainbow]

A Trump-like denial of reality, also known as Donmentia.

[Scot Dutchy]

A Trump-like denial of reality, also known as Donmentia.

Sorry to hear that. I hope it will pass over for you. Especially when you the advanced form of denial based on no evidence. I am sure the Kool-Aid will help.

[pErvinalia]

Especially when you the advanced form of denial based on no evidence.

Dutch English is the best English.

[Brian Peacock]

The absence of evidence is no more evidence for a positive claim than the denial of evidence which supports a counter claim.

Can we have the viral analysis now please Scot?