The Coronavirus Thread

[NineBerry]

https://gbdeclaration.org/

As infectious disease epidemiologists and public health scientists we have grave concerns about the damaging physical and mental health impacts of the prevailing COVID-19 policies, and recommend an approach we call Focused Protection.

200,000 dead Americans and they think we'll manage a "focused protection" scheme. wtf

Take their concern about worsening cardiovascular health due to lockdowns. In the US, health coverage is so bad that a lot of people with heart issues don't know they have them. That's true regardless of covid. Now, how do you propose to focus your protection so as to help them better than supporting lock downs that would include them?

How about their claim that keeping kids out of school is a grave injustice? What are they smoking? It always bothers me when people like this talk about the disproportionate harm done to the disadvantaged, and then say shit like that. Like hello, a year out of school --which no one has done yet-- for many would hardly be noticed; certainly not in terms of academic advancement.

And let's not kid ourselves, their children will advance regardless.

But ignore that, a grave injustice? These are brilliant people with such horrible imaginations! They can't imagine how missing school might not have to be awful?

The strategy is like "let the forests burn. You just need to protect the people living in houses in the forest".

[Brian Peacock]

As part of a stiff set of measures to address rising infection and hospitalisation rates Scotland is to enter an imposed 16 days of temperance from Friday 5pm, although there's now some bad tempered wrangling over what not being allowed to sell alcohol actually means.

"Yea kin tik ah lives...

.. but yea kanni tik ah Tenants Super!"

[Svartalf]

Bah, that's just a move from the teetotal religious faction to force their views on normal people.

[laklak]

I don't get the not selling booze thing, what's that going to accomplish other than to really, really piss people off?

[Sean Hayden]

https://gbdeclaration.org/

As infectious disease epidemiologists and public health scientists we have grave concerns about the damaging physical and mental health impacts of the prevailing COVID-19 policies, and recommend an approach we call Focused Protection.

200,000 dead Americans and they think we'll manage a "focused protection" scheme. wtf

Take their concern about worsening cardiovascular health due to lockdowns. In the US, health coverage is so bad that a lot of people with heart issues don't know they have them. That's true regardless of covid. Now, how do you propose to focus your protection so as to help them better than supporting lock downs that would include them?

How about their claim that keeping kids out of school is a grave injustice? What are they smoking? It always bothers me when people like this talk about the disproportionate harm done to the disadvantaged, and then say shit like that. Like hello, a year out of school --which no one has done yet-- for many would hardly be noticed; certainly not in terms of academic advancement.

And let's not kid ourselves, their children will advance regardless.

But ignore that, a grave injustice? These are brilliant people with such horrible imaginations! They can't imagine how missing school might not have to be awful?

The strategy is like "let the forests burn. You just need to protect the people living in houses in the forest".

That's good.

[Hermit]

[Svartalf]

ouch, that one is bad

[Hermit]

ouch, that one is bad

You're just jealous that the pun can't be transposed into French using ail and fromage.

[Seabass]

I thought it was funny. I've got one of them unsophisticated Merkin senses of humour though...

[NineBerry]

The Wurst Cheese is Dutch Cheese.

[JimC]

Edam you, 9B!

[laklak]

You should tread Caerphilly.

[L'Emmerdeur]

https://gbdeclaration.org/

As infectious disease epidemiologists and public health scientists we have grave concerns about the damaging physical and mental health impacts of the prevailing COVID-19 policies, and recommend an approach we call Focused Protection.

200,000 dead Americans and they think we'll manage a "focused protection" scheme. wtf

Take their concern about worsening cardiovascular health due to lockdowns. In the US, health coverage is so bad that a lot of people with heart issues don't know they have them. That's true regardless of covid. Now, how do you propose to focus your protection so as to help them better than supporting lock downs that would include them?

How about their claim that keeping kids out of school is a grave injustice? What are they smoking? It always bothers me when people like this talk about the disproportionate harm done to the disadvantaged, and then say shit like that. Like hello, a year out of school --which no one has done yet-- for many would hardly be noticed; certainly not in terms of academic advancement.

And let's not kid ourselves, their children will advance regardless.

But ignore that, a grave injustice? These are brilliant people with such horrible imaginations! They can't imagine how missing school might not have to be awful?

There's a piece in Wired that takes a look at the specific recommendations in the Great Barrington Declaration and the absence of evidence or basis in genuine medical/scientific principles. The author asks a pertinent question (my bold below).

'There is no "scientific divide" over herd immunity'

The lead signatories are prominent, successful scientists. Martin Kulldorff is a professor of medicine at Harvard University, Sunetra Gupta a professor at Oxford University and Jay Bhattacharay a professor at Stanford University Medical School. So why are they relying on press releases and champagne-clinking events with libertarian think tanks rather than following the scientific method of testing their hypotheses in a rigorous way and publishing their findings for critique?

A quick look at the preprint server medRxiv shows that these three lead signatories have been publishing papers related to Covid-19, but they haven’t – to the best of my knowledge – published any modelling that puts their shielding theory to the test. In May, Gupta published a study suggesting that coronavirus may have infected half of the UK population already. She was wrong – in London the proportion of those infected seems to be close to 18 per cent – but that’s how science works. You allow your results to be scrutinised, you adjust and you try and get closer to the truth next time. With this declaration, the three lead signatories are positioning themselves on one side of a manufactured scientific debate, but they’re not putting the science front and centre at all.

[rainbow]

The Wurst Cheese is Dutch Cheese.

So that is the culinary secret to the magnificent Käsekrainer?

[Scot Dutchy]

Edam you, 9B!

Edam is only for export. That is the only thing it is fit for.