All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Tero » Wed Feb 12, 2020 5:33 pm

Yeah I don't care about any of that shit. Newspapers lie at times. Trump lies pretty much 90% of the time. He told us about caravans, and yes there were caravans in Mexico. I might have learned a few more things from Trump I did not know. But not more than 10 things.

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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Cunt » Wed Feb 12, 2020 5:37 pm

Tero wrote:
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Yeah I don't care about any of that shit. Newspapers lie at times. Trump lies pretty much 90% of the time. He told us about caravans, and yes there were caravans in Mexico. I might have learned a few more things from Trump I did not know. But not more than 10 things.

If it smells like a conspiracy theory, it's a conspiracy theory.
So do you mean the NYT unverified claim about an FBI documnet (which a FOIA request couldn't find) smelled like a conspiracy theory?

Or Jussie Smollet's attack (we KNOW that one was!)?

Or Jussie Smollet's re-indictment threatening his high-profile government friends who smoothed this initially for him?

Or that Trump is the cause of all government problems? (he has only been there 1/1024th as long as Warren, so she is a larger cause)
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Tero » Wed Feb 12, 2020 5:45 pm

Yeah, we have a saying in Finnish for that crap: juu-ei. Yes no.
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Post by Cunt » Wed Feb 12, 2020 5:50 pm

It's probably relevant to Finns.

But here, I was asking you which you were calling the conspiracy theory.

I officially don't know what you were writing. It's ok, I'll just assume something about anti-Trump would be your point.
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Tero » Wed Feb 12, 2020 5:57 pm

Everything from
Trump
Giuliani
Hannity
McConnel

I've lived with Deep State for decades. It never insulted me like Trump.
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Cunt » Wed Feb 12, 2020 6:10 pm

I don't know what Hannity or much of McConnel and Guiliani.

I expect Durham will be the important person to weigh in. Everyone else seems to be doing procedural stuff (like trying to jail Stone and Flynn for procedural minor offenses) but Durham is doing criminal.

Procedural stuff looks nakedly partisan (like the failed first impeachment)
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Post by Cunt » Wed Feb 12, 2020 6:10 pm

Or is Durham more conspiracy stuff?
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Cunt » Wed Feb 12, 2020 6:13 pm

Here is an article I found on Durham. The logo of the author uses an American Flag though, so probably lefties won't like it.
https://saraacarter.com/john-durham-cri ... tion-docs/
However, Barr has already suggested at the expansive nature of Durham’s probe in December and hinted at the discoveries. And in October, 2019 reports revealed that Durham had expanded the scope of his investigation and would investigate not only the origin of the bureau probe into Trump’s campaign but also the post-election timeline.

Barr said in an interview with NBC in December, that Durham “should spend just as much attention on the post-election period” noting that the probe will not just focus on the origins of the investigation.

Barr said he asked Durham to look at the post Trump election because “of some of the stuff that Horowitz has uncovered which to me is inexplicable.”
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Tero » Wed Feb 12, 2020 7:30 pm

Cunt wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 6:13 pm
Here is an article I found on Durham. The logo of the author uses an American Flag though, so probably lefties won't like it.
https://saraacarter.com/john-durham-cri ... tion-docs/
However, Barr has already suggested at the expansive nature of Durham’s probe in December and hinted at the discoveries. And in October, 2019 reports revealed that Durham had expanded the scope of his investigation and would investigate not only the origin of the bureau probe into Trump’s campaign but also the post-election timeline.

Barr said in an interview with NBC in December, that Durham “should spend just as much attention on the post-election period” noting that the probe will not just focus on the origins of the investigation.

Barr said he asked Durham to look at the post Trump election because “of some of the stuff that Horowitz has uncovered which to me is inexplicable.”
Yeah that conspiracy stuff. Give me deep state anytime instead of Trump state.
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Cunt » Wed Feb 12, 2020 7:43 pm

That Joe/Hunter/James Biden stuff is sure getting to smell like conspiracy. No problem, as with lots of stuff, unless he turns out to be the nominee.
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Seabass » Wed Feb 12, 2020 8:04 pm

Further politicization of the Justice Department. Further degradation of the rule of law. Further we slide into authoritarianism...


Barr takes control of legal matters of interest to Trump, including Stone sentencing
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justic ... g-n1135231

WASHINGTON — The U.S. attorney who had presided over an inconclusive criminal investigation into former acting FBI director Andrew McCabe was abruptly removed from the job last month in one of several recent moves by Attorney General William Barr to take control of legal matters of personal interest to President Donald Trump, according to multiple people familiar with the matter.

A person familiar with the matter confirmed to NBC News that Trump has rescinded the nomination of Jessie Liu, who had been the U.S. attorney for Washington, D.C., for a job as an undersecretary at the Treasury Department.

Liu also supervised the case against Trump associate Roger Stone. On Tuesday, all four line prosecutors withdrew from the case — and one quit the Justice Department altogether — after Barr and his top aides intervened to reverse a stiff sentencing recommendation of up to nine years in prison that the line prosecutors had filed with the court Monday. (Liu left before the sentencing recommendation was made.)

But that wasn't the first time senior political appointees had reached into a case involving a former Trump aide, officials told NBC News. Senior officials at the Justice Department also intervened last month to help change the government's sentencing recommendation for Trump's former national security adviser Michael Flynn, who pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI. While the prosecutors had once recommended up to six months in jail, their latest filing now says they believe probation would be appropriate.

The new filing came on the same day Liu was removed from her job, to be replaced the next day by a former prosecutor selected by Barr. Liu had been overseeing the criminal investigation into McCabe, who was accused by the department's inspector general of lying to investigators. McCabe has not been charged, despite calls by Trump for him to go to prison.

The resignations and the unusual moves by Barr come as Trump has sought revenge against government officials who testified after congressional Democrats subpoenaed them in their impeachment investigation. In the days since the Senate acquitted him, Trump fired his ambassador to the European Union, a political supporter whom he nominated, and had other officials moved out of the White House.

"This signals to me that there has been a political infestation," NBC News legal analyst Chuck Rosenberg, a former U.S. attorney in Virginia, said on MSNBC. "And that is the single most dangerous thing that you can do to the Department of Justice."

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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Cunt » Wed Feb 12, 2020 8:16 pm

Ya, that's a bad look.

I wonder why he didn't just commute the sentence or pardon him...
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Tero » Wed Feb 12, 2020 8:55 pm

There is only one conspiracy: Trump. He is conspiring with his henchmen against us.
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Cunt » Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:04 pm

Tero wrote:
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There is only one conspiracy: Trump. He is conspiring with his henchmen against us.
This 'us' you speak of is a shrinking minority.

Did you see what happened to Trumps popularity after the failed first impeachment?
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by L'Emmerdeur » Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:29 pm

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Wed Feb 12, 2020 4:36 pm
Isn't the times the ones who just lied about qanon being identified by the FBI as a terrorist threat?

A tweeter called @prayingmedic did a FOIA request, and showed the document they refered to was not from the FBI.

Of course, you can believe them on this though.

What did they publish about the Smollett case? I mean when everyone still thought it was a 'hate crime investigation' instead of a 'Hollywood asshole pulls favours from politicians investigation'?
So, you're saying that this document is a fake? Are you talking about some other document?

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