Libertarianism is inherently pro-choice
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Re: Libertarianism is inherently pro-choice
I think the OP title is correct. End of.
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Too bad we don't appear to have any pro-lifers here to actually argue the case. I am left attempting to seek out novel arguments and opinions, but failing.
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Re: Libertarianism is inherently pro-choice
The matter can be framed in terms of the following question.
Do women have dominion over their own bodies, and if not to when and to what extent do others (whoever they may be) have dominion over a women's bodies?
Do women have dominion over their own bodies, and if not to when and to what extent do others (whoever they may be) have dominion over a women's bodies?
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I see little if any difference between abortion and infanticide. Infanticide is probably preferable due to the medical research advantage.Drewish wrote:As in killing your kids should be okay, or abortion should be illegal like killing your own kid?Tyrannical wrote:Infanticide shouldn't be any different.
And I mean infant. Once you hit around 18 months it starts to become a bit of a grey area. But it should not feel pain during the procedure.
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Infanticide is, or at least has been, a lot more common than most people realise. In the past there has been noticeably less opprobrium associated with it too than in first world countries today.
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Murdering a human being at any stage of their development is sick and evil.Drewish wrote:When I meet a supposed libertarian who is pro-life I can never get a good argument from them. They always seem to go back to a "life begins at conception" argument, as if the means by which a complete ban on abortion would occur are unimportant. How would one enforce banning chemical abortions (like the morning after pill)? There's no evidence that somebody went missing. Miscarriages happen all the time. Trying to keep a pill illegal? Yeah see how the drug war has worked out so well. Without going full police state, there's no way to stop chemical abortions. Talk of late term abortions and viability aside, libertarianism is completely incompatible with a ban on chemical abortions.
There I've put my cards on the table. I know there are some people who self identify as right wing or libertarian around here. Lefties can go fuck themselves, I don't care about their "Anyone opposed to abortion hates women!" bullshit. I want to hear from intelligent people who might disagree with me. So conservatives, libertarians, etc... who and why are you pro-life on this issue?
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So? Is a zygote a human being?
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Were you not once a zygote therefore a human being?Brian Peacock wrote:So? Is a zygote a human being?
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Get fucked you inhuman scum, a zygote grows into a human being just like you and me. Terminating it at their most vulnerable and voiceless is the most callous of inhuman action to man.Hermit wrote:
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DaveDodo007 wrote:Get fucked you inhuman scum...


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DaveDodo007, this post: http://www.rationalia.com/forum/viewtop ... 8#p1731018
is a clear personal attack on another member. Given your posting history, and the generalised attacks of your recent posts, you are suspended for 2 weeks.
is a clear personal attack on another member. Given your posting history, and the generalised attacks of your recent posts, you are suspended for 2 weeks.
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A zygote isn't a man (nor a woman nor a child nor a living human).DaveDodo007 wrote:Get fucked you inhuman scum, a zygote grows into a human being just like you and me. Terminating it at their most vulnerable and voiceless is the most callous of inhuman action to man.Hermit wrote:
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Hermit wrote:DaveDodo007 wrote:Get fucked you inhuman scum...

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