The Reign of Trump

[Scot Dutchy]

Is there anything presidential about Trumpcunt?

From Vanity Fair:

Donald Trump is “a poor person’s idea of a rich person,” Fran Lebowitz recently observed at The Vanity Fair New Establishment Summit. “They see him. They think, ‘If I were rich, I’d have a fabulous tie like that.’” Nowhere, perhaps, does this reflection appear more accurate than at Trump Grill (which is occasionally spelled Grille on various pieces of signage). On one level, the Grill (or Grille), suggests the heights of plutocratic splendor—a steakhouse built into the basement of one’s own skyscraper.

That's the problem Trumpcunt is as brassy as a new penny and has zero class.

[Tero]

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/12/15/op ... ality.html

Trump’s success in winning the presidency despite a modern day record of lying suggests that for the moment he has been empowered by a large segment of the electorate to redefine the past, present and future to suit his agenda. He has been unconstrained by facts.

[Brian Peacock]

Love seeing all the Trump supporters getting dumped on as Trump fills the swamp full of alligators and goes back on everything he said.
Even funnier is seeing that they are too stupid to realise it even when Trump tells them to their face he lied.
They're all getting absolutely everything they deserve and it couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of people.

Damn, getting the last laugh actually feels good. I can't stay mad.

The guy hasn't even become President yet, and he's gone back on everything he said? LOL.

Yeah ,that damn Trump. Failing to achieve his goals 30 days before he's elected....

Hmm. So everything a candidate says they'll do before the election counts for nothing after they've been elected eh?

[Woodbutcher]

To support Trump you can't just be stupid, you had to study it in school and pass with highest honours.

[Tero]

It's more like religion. You have to BELIEVE in Republicanism. Just allowing that, you can also believe Pizza Gate etc.

[Brian Peacock]

It's more like religion. You have to BELIEVE in Republicanism. Just allowing that, you can also believe Pizza Gate etc.

More of a personality cult, like a Manson or Koresh, because you didn't have to BELIEVE in Republicanism to vote Trump - and many Republicans disavowed him, and a great many stayed home or voted third-party - you just had to BELIEVE IN TRUMP.

When he said, "I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose voters," it not only cast his followers as unthinking idolaters willing to authorise and endorse the most shameful (not to mention illegal) of his acts, but it clearly shows that he thinks of himself as an idol, their idol - their object of worship, their untouchable god. Those who believe, perhaps even fervently, that Trump can do no wrong and, therefore, that everything he does is right, will not worry about his lies, his inconsistencies, his flip-flopping, his reneging, his pussy-grabbing, or his incompetence. They BELIEVE in their idol. He is the light: he is the true path to glory. But that's not the issue. The issue is, does the cult's leader, Trump himself, believe his own mythology, that he can do no wrong and, therefore, that everything he does is right - even standing in the middle of 5th Avenue and letting loose with the uzi?

Donald Trump believes he was born to be King (LA Times, 3 Dec 2016)

[Tero]

Too late for Obama to make it a national park?
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/12 ... lling.html

[Tero]

A Finnish friend of mine that lives in the UK was trying to analyze the election by looking at the speaking skills using Aristotle models. I told him he was on the wrong track. This election and Trump are more like pro wrestling.

[Brian Peacock]

Trump is a man who cannot extemporise. When speaking off the cuff he'll start talking with no real idea of what he's trying to say, then hel'll lose track of what the question or point was and turn to commenting on what he's just said, and in the winds up saying something ridiculous which bears no relation to the point.


@StigAbell

[cronus]

He's in the ideal situation to get his thoughts organised. Therapy, you couldn't afford. He will have. Every sentence tested for it's meaning. And that meaning found whether it was there or not. By everyone. He's tea leaves in the mug of Washington DC. Should be fun to watch. Terrifying fun but fun.

[Brian Peacock]

The thing is Crumpy, when we extemporise -- like I'm doing now (all though I have the luxury of being able use the backspace button and edit what I want to say before posting, but that's by-the-by) -- we might not know exactly what we're going to say, what words we're about to use and how we're going to organise them, but we have a general idea about the thrust of our point and we have a natural desire to be coherent. Sure, sometimes we get lost along the way, or distracted, we ramble or lose our train of thought, but generally when people speak off-the-cuff they are understandable and, consequentially, understood. But when Trump is speaking in public he doesn't seem anywhere near to being coherent so much of the time. It's not just that he rambles - he just doesn't make any sense whatsoever, either in the context of what he's supposed to be talking about or in any general sense either. Look at that text above again - at best you would say that it's a random dada-esque-stream-of-consciousness poem on the genetic virtues of being Donald Trump, but he's not supposed to be the business of producing surrealist tributes to himself, and particularly not when talking about his administration's response to Iran's nuclear power program.

[Animavore]

Reminds me of this.

[Hermit]

I'd call his speaking style the verbal equivalent of stream-of-consciousness or interior monologue. Rather revealing way to communicate, especially for shrinks.

I'm a bit worried about myself for easily apprehending a coherent thread in what Trump said in the above excerpt. It is not difficult to "translate" it into something that sounds quite conventional and coherent by stripping the idiosyncrasies out, though it'll still be somewhat meandering in content.

[Rum]

I remain astonished that he is about to become the 'most powerful man on the planet', and find myself hoping to wake up and realise I have had a bad dream.

The next four years are really going to test the 'checks and balances' that American democracy is supposed to be all about. It stifled Obama sadly. Let's hope, rather more happily, that it does the same for Trump. If not I fear for us all.

[Brian Peacock]

I'd call his speaking style the verbal equivalent of stream-of-consciousness or interior monologue. Rather revealing way to communicate, especially for shrinks.

I'm a bit worried about myself for easily apprehending a coherent thread in what Trump said in the above excerpt. It is not difficult to "translate" it into something that sounds quite conventional and coherent by stripping the idiosyncrasies out, though it'll still be somewhat meandering in content.

We are so conditioned to expect coherence from a reputedly sane person's speech that we, somewhat charitably perhaps, compile a kind of meaning from the scattered shards of his utterances that was neither intended or there to begin with. Perhaps this is like Trump's superpower - forcing others to generate meaning on his behalf?