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Re: Rationalskepticism,lol part III.

Post by DaveDodo007 » Fri Dec 09, 2016 12:08 am

Hermit wrote:
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Brian Peacock wrote:Where as the 'alt-right' ... ... ...
Are a myth, conservatives and the far right have always existed throughout history.
Hermit wrote:Yes, conservatives and the far right have always existed throughout history. That does not make the alt right a myth. Richard Spencer claims to have created the term. He is wrong, of course, perhaps out of ignorance, but more likely because he is a rabid right winger, and right wingers have no objection to lying as long as the lies are of their own creation. Alt-right was a well known usenet channel for years before the world wide web came into existence.

Given the type of characters that inhabited that channel, and comparing the views of today's right wingers, I regard "alt-right" as a suitable and accurate label to slap on them, and yes, I regard you as a member. There is no formal, monolithic ideology. Rather, alt-righters pick from a smorgasbord of views, the predominant feature of which is hate. That is why nationalism, racism and misogyny predominate.
Where you believe that the Alt..Right exists seems to be just the part of the 4chan message board and /pol/ in particular. Even that has its own communism/socialism community. When you see me express such views as 'Abos aren't human', 'abortion should be legal (it shouldn't be because it is murder) because it keeps the nigger population down', 'women shouldn't have the vote because they are emotional children.' then include me in the Alt..Right otherwise fuck you. Conservatism isn't inhumane (see Marxism for that) it is just conservatives get a bad rep because of pragmatism and reality. Your magic money tree and unlimited resources doesn't exist and being a bunch of idealists wont change that. Plus the fact that you are a bunch of puritans, joymops and self righteous wankers doesn't help you in anyway at all.
DaveDodo007 wrote:The fact that right wingers could be tech savvy ... caught the left and liberals by surprise.
Hermit wrote:No. It is, and always was obvious that any moron can post on twitter, facebook, youtube or whatever. Even creating a bespoke web-site on which you can say and write whatever crap you like is a doddle. You just hire a designer to create one for you. They're easy to get and cheap.
Weaponised autism cannot be brought and having graphic artists produce meme's to do an end around the MSM (for free, grassroots) can never be undervalued.
Hermit wrote:What did surprise the liberals, is that so many people tuned into the alt-right channels and liked what they heard, read and saw. The liberals of which we speak here are capitalists who have tried to give capitalism a humane mask. Once upon a time they actually made an effort. Now they ignore the people's problems, preferring to chat with Golman Sachs, et al., and deregulating the financial market in order to make it easier for the high rollers to make even more money than ever before, never mind the cost to the commoners. They were surprised because they succeeded to pull the wool over their eyes ever since Bill Clinton's presidency, and thought they could continue doing so forever. When the people gave them the "fuck you, we just found someone who promised to make us great again", they went into shock mode. Though I regard Hillary Clinton as the lesser of two evils, I can't say I sympathise with her. Her seeming concern for the underdogs was a charade.
Nah what happened was Bush wouldn't have got NAFTA through Congress without Bill Clinton's help. The die was cast, the people didn't matter anymore as the elite establishment could just import more poor people to be dependent on them and continue their elites rule from now on. Using identity politics to divide and conquer would become a double edge sword, who would have thunked it.
DaveDodo007 wrote:the left and liberals are the establishment now so conservatives have become the counter culture
Hermit wrote:The left has always been sidelined by the reactionary conservatives and the conservative liberal capitalists, but yes, there is more than an element of truth in the rest of that sentence.
More like the left have always been hoodwinked by their global corporalist masters, that is the trouble with collectivism, there will always be authoritarians willing to lead you.
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Re: Rationalskepticism,lol part III.

Post by DaveDodo007 » Fri Dec 09, 2016 12:21 am

pErvin wrote:
DaveDodo007 wrote:
Brian Peacock wrote:Where as the 'alt-right' ... ... ...
Are a myth, conservatives and the far right have always existed throughout history. The fact that right wingers could be tech savvy, have autists in their ranks which could be weaponized and use dank memes to do an end around the MSM caught the left and liberals by surprise. I have said it before and I will say it again, the American election (2016) was the first Internet election. The MSM was caught with their pants down because younger people didn't need them anymore when it came to finding information.

New Internet news sources became available, they are trying to now demonize this new media as 'fake news' though this will not work as the new Internet media exposed the old school MSM as just propaganda news for the establishment, corporalist, elitist moneyed cunts that they are. You do get some twats that you never heard of before like the white supremacy mongs like Richard Spencer claiming he is the alt..right even though nobody has ever heard of him and he is computer illiterate and nobody gives a fuck about him anyway. Also Milo Yiannopoulos trying to explain the so called alt..right shows he doesn't know what he is talking about and is just a band wagon jumper. It is simple really, the left and liberals are the establishment now so conservatives have become the counter culture, it is not rocket science.
It clearly is rocket science to you. The establishment are the neoliberals who make up the centre-right, so both dems/labour and repubs/conservatives. That you've totally missed the anti-establishment left like Syriza, Podemos, Cornyn, Sanders, etc, shows that you're a sop for conservatism without any clue about how the political landscape is arranged.
Though I agree both (neo)liberals/conservatives are part of the establishment/corporalist elite only the conservative base are rebelling against this, certainly the left and the liberals aren't. All the people you mention are part of the EU (except Sanders who just sold out to the democrat tossers) establishment. Either the EU is destroyed or the working class are slaves to the globalist elite forever.
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Re: Rationalskepticism,lol part III.

Post by DaveDodo007 » Fri Dec 09, 2016 12:45 am

Brian Peacock wrote:
Hermit wrote:...
DaveDodo007 wrote:The fact that right wingers could be tech savvy ... caught the left and liberals by surprise.
No. It is, and always was obvious that any moron can post on twitter, facebook, youtube or whatever. Even creating a bespoke web-site on which you can say and write whatever crap you like is a doddle. You just hire a designer to create one for you. They're easy to get and cheap...
Indeed. Evidence of the developing doctrine of the alt-right can be found in Reichbart's An Establishment Conservative’s Guide To The Alt-Right, capitalism.org, and other weblets.
Lol, funny how a lefty had to find a site that I have no interest in and will not be clicking on. Unlike you authoritarian driven lefty/libtards I don't need any outside opinion telling me how to think. I have my own views and if they are wrong then feel free to show me so. Though please be advised that insults and 'isms' wont sway me in anyway, shape and form. Jesus Fucking Christ, how are you not robots at this point. Please show me you have at least some individuality at this point because it is getting beyond funny.
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Post by pErvinalia » Fri Dec 09, 2016 2:35 am

DaveDodo007 wrote:Conservatism isn't inhumane (see Marxism for that) it is just conservatives get a bad rep because of pragmatism and reality.
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Post by pErvinalia » Fri Dec 09, 2016 2:38 am

DaveDodo007 wrote:
pErvin wrote:
DaveDodo007 wrote:
Brian Peacock wrote:Where as the 'alt-right' ... ... ...
Are a myth, conservatives and the far right have always existed throughout history. The fact that right wingers could be tech savvy, have autists in their ranks which could be weaponized and use dank memes to do an end around the MSM caught the left and liberals by surprise. I have said it before and I will say it again, the American election (2016) was the first Internet election. The MSM was caught with their pants down because younger people didn't need them anymore when it came to finding information.

New Internet news sources became available, they are trying to now demonize this new media as 'fake news' though this will not work as the new Internet media exposed the old school MSM as just propaganda news for the establishment, corporalist, elitist moneyed cunts that they are. You do get some twats that you never heard of before like the white supremacy mongs like Richard Spencer claiming he is the alt..right even though nobody has ever heard of him and he is computer illiterate and nobody gives a fuck about him anyway. Also Milo Yiannopoulos trying to explain the so called alt..right shows he doesn't know what he is talking about and is just a band wagon jumper. It is simple really, the left and liberals are the establishment now so conservatives have become the counter culture, it is not rocket science.
It clearly is rocket science to you. The establishment are the neoliberals who make up the centre-right, so both dems/labour and repubs/conservatives. That you've totally missed the anti-establishment left like Syriza, Podemos, Cornyn, Sanders, etc, shows that you're a sop for conservatism without any clue about how the political landscape is arranged.
Though I agree both (neo)liberals/conservatives are part of the establishment/corporalist elite only the conservative base are rebelling against this, certainly the left and the liberals aren't.
What the fuck are you talking about? What direction do you think Syriza, Podemos, Corbyn, Sanders, Occupy, Arab Spring, Indignados (spelling?) are coming from? Newsflash, they are coming from the left. :fp:
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Post by pErvinalia » Fri Dec 09, 2016 2:39 am

DaveDodo007 wrote:
Brian Peacock wrote:
Hermit wrote:...
DaveDodo007 wrote:The fact that right wingers could be tech savvy ... caught the left and liberals by surprise.
No. It is, and always was obvious that any moron can post on twitter, facebook, youtube or whatever. Even creating a bespoke web-site on which you can say and write whatever crap you like is a doddle. You just hire a designer to create one for you. They're easy to get and cheap...
Indeed. Evidence of the developing doctrine of the alt-right can be found in Reichbart's An Establishment Conservative’s Guide To The Alt-Right, capitalism.org, and other weblets.
Lol, funny how a lefty had to find a site that I have no interest in and will not be clicking on. Unlike you authoritarian driven lefty/libtards I don't need any outside opinion telling me how to think.
Translation: I was proven wrong but evidence has no effect on me.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Fri Dec 09, 2016 3:49 am

Oh come on Ddd007. Evidence has to be interesting to you in order to be factual? :roll:
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Re: Rationalskepticism,lol part III.

Post by DaveDodo007 » Fri Dec 09, 2016 4:08 am

pErvin wrote:
DaveDodo007 wrote:
pErvin wrote:
DaveDodo007 wrote:
Brian Peacock wrote:Where as the 'alt-right' ... ... ...
Are a myth, conservatives and the far right have always existed throughout history. The fact that right wingers could be tech savvy, have autists in their ranks which could be weaponized and use dank memes to do an end around the MSM caught the left and liberals by surprise. I have said it before and I will say it again, the American election (2016) was the first Internet election. The MSM was caught with their pants down because younger people didn't need them anymore when it came to finding information.

New Internet news sources became available, they are trying to now demonize this new media as 'fake news' though this will not work as the new Internet media exposed the old school MSM as just propaganda news for the establishment, corporalist, elitist moneyed cunts that they are. You do get some twats that you never heard of before like the white supremacy mongs like Richard Spencer claiming he is the alt..right even though nobody has ever heard of him and he is computer illiterate and nobody gives a fuck about him anyway. Also Milo Yiannopoulos trying to explain the so called alt..right shows he doesn't know what he is talking about and is just a band wagon jumper. It is simple really, the left and liberals are the establishment now so conservatives have become the counter culture, it is not rocket science.
It clearly is rocket science to you. The establishment are the neoliberals who make up the centre-right, so both dems/labour and repubs/conservatives. That you've totally missed the anti-establishment left like Syriza, Podemos, Cornyn, Sanders, etc, shows that you're a sop for conservatism without any clue about how the political landscape is arranged.
Though I agree both (neo)liberals/conservatives are part of the establishment/corporalist elite only the conservative base are rebelling against this, certainly the left and the liberals aren't.
What the fuck are you talking about? What direction do you think Syriza, Podemos, Corbyn, Sanders, Occupy, Arab Spring, Indignados (spelling?) are coming from? Newsflash, they are coming from the left. :fp:
OK, if the left destroy the EU then good for them and I will give them the credit they deserve. The Arab spring are still muslim so fuck them until they grow up and stop believing in myths.
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Re: Rationalskepticism,lol part III.

Post by DaveDodo007 » Fri Dec 09, 2016 4:14 am

pErvin wrote:
DaveDodo007 wrote:
Brian Peacock wrote:
Hermit wrote:...
DaveDodo007 wrote:The fact that right wingers could be tech savvy ... caught the left and liberals by surprise.
No. It is, and always was obvious that any moron can post on twitter, facebook, youtube or whatever. Even creating a bespoke web-site on which you can say and write whatever crap you like is a doddle. You just hire a designer to create one for you. They're easy to get and cheap...
Indeed. Evidence of the developing doctrine of the alt-right can be found in Reichbart's An Establishment Conservative’s Guide To The Alt-Right, capitalism.org, and other weblets.
Lol, funny how a lefty had to find a site that I have no interest in and will not be clicking on. Unlike you authoritarian driven lefty/libtards I don't need any outside opinion telling me how to think.
Translation: I was proven wrong but evidence has no effect on me.
Wut?. I'm not Alt..Right and not interested in the Alt..Right (I don't even think they exist as a viable entity) so what evidence I'm I ignoring?
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Post by DaveDodo007 » Fri Dec 09, 2016 4:16 am

Brian Peacock wrote:Oh come on Ddd007. Evidence has to be interesting to you in order to be factual? :roll:
Some people's political opinions are just their opinions so there is nothing factual about it.
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Post by pErvinalia » Fri Dec 09, 2016 5:26 am

DaveDodo007 wrote:
pErvin wrote:
DaveDodo007 wrote:
pErvin wrote:
DaveDodo007 wrote:
Are a myth, conservatives and the far right have always existed throughout history. The fact that right wingers could be tech savvy, have autists in their ranks which could be weaponized and use dank memes to do an end around the MSM caught the left and liberals by surprise. I have said it before and I will say it again, the American election (2016) was the first Internet election. The MSM was caught with their pants down because younger people didn't need them anymore when it came to finding information.

New Internet news sources became available, they are trying to now demonize this new media as 'fake news' though this will not work as the new Internet media exposed the old school MSM as just propaganda news for the establishment, corporalist, elitist moneyed cunts that they are. You do get some twats that you never heard of before like the white supremacy mongs like Richard Spencer claiming he is the alt..right even though nobody has ever heard of him and he is computer illiterate and nobody gives a fuck about him anyway. Also Milo Yiannopoulos trying to explain the so called alt..right shows he doesn't know what he is talking about and is just a band wagon jumper. It is simple really, the left and liberals are the establishment now so conservatives have become the counter culture, it is not rocket science.
It clearly is rocket science to you. The establishment are the neoliberals who make up the centre-right, so both dems/labour and repubs/conservatives. That you've totally missed the anti-establishment left like Syriza, Podemos, Cornyn, Sanders, etc, shows that you're a sop for conservatism without any clue about how the political landscape is arranged.
Though I agree both (neo)liberals/conservatives are part of the establishment/corporalist elite only the conservative base are rebelling against this, certainly the left and the liberals aren't.
What the fuck are you talking about? What direction do you think Syriza, Podemos, Corbyn, Sanders, Occupy, Arab Spring, Indignados (spelling?) are coming from? Newsflash, they are coming from the left. :fp:
OK, if the left destroy the EU then good for them and I will give them the credit they deserve. The Arab spring are still muslim so fuck them until they grow up and stop believing in myths.
Most conservatives are religious. Have you told yourself to fuck off yet for belonging to such a delusional ideology?
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Re: Rationalskepticism,lol part III.

Post by DaveDodo007 » Fri Dec 09, 2016 6:11 am

pErvin wrote:
DaveDodo007 wrote:
pErvin wrote:
DaveDodo007 wrote:
pErvin wrote: It clearly is rocket science to you. The establishment are the neoliberals who make up the centre-right, so both dems/labour and repubs/conservatives. That you've totally missed the anti-establishment left like Syriza, Podemos, Cornyn, Sanders, etc, shows that you're a sop for conservatism without any clue about how the political landscape is arranged.
Though I agree both (neo)liberals/conservatives are part of the establishment/corporalist elite only the conservative base are rebelling against this, certainly the left and the liberals aren't.
What the fuck are you talking about? What direction do you think Syriza, Podemos, Corbyn, Sanders, Occupy, Arab Spring, Indignados (spelling?) are coming from? Newsflash, they are coming from the left. :fp:
OK, if the left destroy the EU then good for them and I will give them the credit they deserve. The Arab spring are still muslim so fuck them until they grow up and stop believing in myths.
Most conservatives are religious. Have you told yourself to fuck off yet for belonging to such a delusional ideology?
No and if you think what you just posted is a compelling argument then you are retarded beyond measure.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Fri Dec 09, 2016 7:32 pm

DaveDodo007 wrote:
Brian Peacock wrote:Oh come on Ddd007. Evidence has to be interesting to you in order to be factual? :roll:
Some people's political opinions are just their opinions so there is nothing factual about it.
Yeah, I can see that. Everyone's opinion is equally valid - whether it's just made up bollocks or rooted in evidence.
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Post by pErvinalia » Sat Dec 10, 2016 12:29 am

Post-truth.
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Poo-truth.
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