
Erdogan organised the coup.
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Turkey, heading for 640 AD as fast as Erdogan can drag them .... 





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Who or what is Fethulla Gülen?
"Since the failed coup attempt in Turkey of July 15 there has been much speculation in western media that it in fact was all engineered by President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan to provide him with the pretext to impose emergency rule and to jail any and all opposition to his rule. At this point evidence still suggests that that was not at all the case. Rather, as I wrote at the time when it was clear the coup attempt was collapsing, it was a coup initiated by the CIA acting through their primary asset inside Turkey, the networks of their fugitive Turkish asset Fethullah Gülen. When we examine more closely “what” is Fethullah Gülen he is anything but the grandfatherly image of a 75-year-old soft-spoken Islamic moderate, scholar and Imam. His networks have been called the most dangerous in Germany by Islamic experts and have been banned in several Central Asian countries. Now, too, in Turkey. What’s becoming clear is that the failed coup was in fact a dry-run, a dress rehearsal by Gülen’s controllers in Langley to see how Erdogan would react, in order to recalibrate and prepare for a more serious attempt in the future. Washington was not at all happy with the foreign policy turn of Erdoğan turning to reconcile with Russia and possibly also with Syria’s Assad.
Fethullah Gülen is not a “who” but, rather, it is a “what.” The what is one of the most extensive and elaborate surrogate warfare networks ever created by the United States intelligence community, spanning countless nations including the United States and Germany, as well as the historic Turkic regions of Central Asia from Turkey up to the Uyghur peoples of China’s oil-rich Xinjiang Autonomous Province."
https://off-guardian.org/2016/07/28/wha ... lla-gulen/
"Since the failed coup attempt in Turkey of July 15 there has been much speculation in western media that it in fact was all engineered by President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan to provide him with the pretext to impose emergency rule and to jail any and all opposition to his rule. At this point evidence still suggests that that was not at all the case. Rather, as I wrote at the time when it was clear the coup attempt was collapsing, it was a coup initiated by the CIA acting through their primary asset inside Turkey, the networks of their fugitive Turkish asset Fethullah Gülen. When we examine more closely “what” is Fethullah Gülen he is anything but the grandfatherly image of a 75-year-old soft-spoken Islamic moderate, scholar and Imam. His networks have been called the most dangerous in Germany by Islamic experts and have been banned in several Central Asian countries. Now, too, in Turkey. What’s becoming clear is that the failed coup was in fact a dry-run, a dress rehearsal by Gülen’s controllers in Langley to see how Erdogan would react, in order to recalibrate and prepare for a more serious attempt in the future. Washington was not at all happy with the foreign policy turn of Erdoğan turning to reconcile with Russia and possibly also with Syria’s Assad.
Fethullah Gülen is not a “who” but, rather, it is a “what.” The what is one of the most extensive and elaborate surrogate warfare networks ever created by the United States intelligence community, spanning countless nations including the United States and Germany, as well as the historic Turkic regions of Central Asia from Turkey up to the Uyghur peoples of China’s oil-rich Xinjiang Autonomous Province."
https://off-guardian.org/2016/07/28/wha ... lla-gulen/
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Fethulla Gülen is a personal enemy of erdogan and an excuse to play Stalin an do massive purges everywhere... I bet not one purged in 10 is a Gülen supporter... if that many
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Doesn't make sense, the CIA would have plotted to push Turkey away from its NATO alliance and into the arms of Russia?
While I can believe that a coup as ludicrously planned and ill executed as this one was intended to fail from day A, putting the CIA, MI6 and mossad behind it, with the expectable result that Turkey would move away from alliance with definitely hostile "friends" and seek new ones just doesn't make sense, unless somebody is looking for a casus belli with turikey, which I won't believe for one moment.
Ergo, I still believe that the whole plot was hatched to give erdogan an excuse to purge those perceived as political enemies.
While I can believe that a coup as ludicrously planned and ill executed as this one was intended to fail from day A, putting the CIA, MI6 and mossad behind it, with the expectable result that Turkey would move away from alliance with definitely hostile "friends" and seek new ones just doesn't make sense, unless somebody is looking for a casus belli with turikey, which I won't believe for one moment.
Ergo, I still believe that the whole plot was hatched to give erdogan an excuse to purge those perceived as political enemies.
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The article is mostly from Yeni Şafak, conservative Islamist Erdogan supporters, They aren't noted for their honesty .
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yeni_%C5%9Eafak
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yeni_%C5%9Eafak




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Galaxian should be all over this, like a fly to a turd...
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DRSB wrote:... it was a coup initiated by the CIA acting through their primary asset inside Turkey, the networks of their fugitive Turkish asset Keyser Söze ....
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Indeed. Galaxian has already been all over this: http://rationalia.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... 9#p1670198JimC wrote:Galaxian should be all over this, like a fly to a turd...
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Predictably it's orchestrated by the U.S. Even Scot Peterson, who is sitting on Death Row at San Quentin, is involved. Whooda thunk it?
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/08/18 ... -coup.html
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/08/18 ... -coup.html
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Strangely enough, I've not always found Fox News to be perfectly reliable.laklak wrote:Predictably it's orchestrated by the U.S. Even Scot Peterson, who is sitting on Death Row at San Quentin, is involved. Whooda thunk it?
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/08/18 ... -coup.html
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