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Re: GOP Primaries/Caucuses Discussions, Jokes and Prediction

Post by JimC » Tue May 31, 2016 3:01 am

Panem et circensis...
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Re: GOP Primaries/Caucuses Discussions, Jokes and Prediction

Post by Animavore » Tue May 31, 2016 1:48 pm

When Donald Drumpf told Republicans that his campaign had money, it was a lie. In meeting with Senate Republicans, Drumpf's campaign privately admitted that they have no money and will not be able to run television ads until after the GOP convention in July.

Donald Drumpf’s campaign has alerted Senate Republicans that he won’t have much money to spend fending off attacks from Hillary Clinton over the next couple months.

The notice came when Paul Manafort, Drumpf’s senior advisor, met with a group of Senate Republican chiefs of staff for lunch last week, sources familiar with the meeting told the Washington Examiner. The admission suggests that Drumpf will be far more dependent on the GOP brass for money than he has led voters to believe, but it’s consistent with his reliance on the Republican National Committee to provide a ground game in battleground states.

“They know that they’re not going to have enough money to be on TV in June and probably most of July, until they actually accept the nomination and get RNC funds, so they plan to just use earned media to compete on the airwaves,” one GOP source familiar with Manafort’s comments told the Examiner.

Drumpf is also refusing to use his own money to fund his campaign. In other words, what Donald Drumpf is telling the voters is completely different from what is happening behind closed doors.
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Re: GOP Primaries/Caucuses Discussions, Jokes and Prediction

Post by Forty Two » Tue May 31, 2016 2:15 pm

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When Donald Drumpf told Republicans that his campaign had money, it was a lie. In meeting with Senate Republicans, Drumpf's campaign privately admitted that they have no money and will not be able to run television ads until after the GOP convention in July.
Well, it might be a question of phrasing. How much money did Trump say the campaign had? And, it seems to me to be a very positive thing that Trump is operating with minimal funds. Good on 'im. Money out of politics, and all that.

Donald Drumpf’s campaign has alerted Senate Republicans that he won’t have much money to spend fending off attacks from Hillary Clinton over the next couple months.
sounds like what one might say to Senate Republicans if one was looking to get them to infuse some money into the fight against Hillary Clinton....

The notice came when Paul Manafort, Drumpf’s senior advisor, met with a group of Senate Republican chiefs of staff for lunch last week, sources familiar with the meeting told the Washington Examiner. The admission suggests that Drumpf will be far more dependent on the GOP brass for money than he has led voters to believe, but it’s consistent with his reliance on the Republican National Committee to provide a ground game in battleground states.
That is, of course, if the GOP brass will fund him. So far, it seems more likely they will put up a third party candidate to make him lose to Hillary Clinton, because the GOP conservative wing thinks Hillary is either more conservative or more controllable than Trump. Anyone who is out for the good of the country and the world knows that we should support the candidate that the GOP brass prefers....
“They know that they’re not going to have enough money to be on TV in June and probably most of July, until they actually accept the nomination and get RNC funds, so they plan to just use earned media to compete on the airwaves,” one GOP source familiar with Manafort’s comments told the Examiner.[/quote]

What does he need to be on TV for ? -- Trump has the nomination locked up, and Hillary is not done with her nomination process yet.

Drumpf is also refusing to use his own money to fund his campaign. In other words, what Donald Drumpf is telling the voters is completely different from what is happening behind closed doors.
cont. http://www.politicususa.com/2016/05/28/ ... broke.html[/quote]

He has self funded about 2/3, with most of the rest coming from small private donors. Big money donors account for about 1/2 of one percent of his funding. And, that's far better in that regard than any other candidate.

This is just grasping at straws.
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Post by Animavore » Tue May 31, 2016 2:21 pm

He lied, pure and simple.
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Post by Forty Two » Tue May 31, 2016 2:24 pm

piscator wrote:Your failures are your own business. You can't blame Obama or Hillary.
Nor have I tried. Hillary is liar and a crook, and a neocon hawk. Obama was given a free pass on much of his Presidency, rarely held accountable where his predecessor would be held accountable. Obama's gutting of the military has really hurt us, and he has ignored the VA, and Obamacare is debacle. The economy has not recovered and too many people are still out of work. He has run up taxes, increased needless regulations and failed to properly regulate where it was needed.
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Most Trumpkins want to burn down America as well as the dickheaded Republican Party that conned them for so long. Is that what you want, or do you mostly blame yourself for the way you voted?
I don't see where you can say this about Trump supporters. The ones setting fires, turning over cop cars, and suggesting that the western third of the country be chopped off and given to Mexico are OPPOSING Trump. The ones that want to burn down "America" are the leftist progressives, who claim to loathe capitalism, claim to support socialism, and consider America to be the greatest danger to world peace and a racist, hegemonic despot....

Conned them for so long? Who has been in power for the last 7 1/2 years? Is Obama a tool of the Republican Party? The Democratic Party had no influence in Congress? What is this nonsense about the Republican party conning them, without reference to the Democratic Party? Democrats don't con? The good stuff that happens is what Democrats did, and all the bad stuff is Republican, right?

My votes have always been just fine. I've been hoping for a liberal shift in the Republican party for a long time. The hijacking of the GOP by the religious right may well be ending. And, I'm glad to see it.
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Post by Forty Two » Tue May 31, 2016 2:25 pm

Animavore wrote:He lied, pure and simple.
Well, quote the lie. Your article didn't. :prof:
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar

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Post by Animavore » Tue May 31, 2016 2:26 pm

Forty Two wrote:
Animavore wrote:He lied, pure and simple.
Well, quote the lie. Your article didn't. :prof:
No. Lol.
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Post by Animavore » Tue May 31, 2016 2:27 pm

Lol.
Donald Drumpf looked like a fool and a fraud on Sunday. But what else is new?

Even the most ardent Trumpistas would have to admit that Drumpf’s appearance at the annual Rolling Thunder motorcycle rally was, as spectacles go, pretty pathetic. It was supposed to be a vast, multitudinous gathering on the plaza in front of the Lincoln Memorial, one of the greatest and most historic public spaces in the nation. Instead, Drumpf drew a paltry crowd estimated by organizers at perhaps 5,000.

As Drumpf might say in a late-night tweet: “Sad!”

The presumptive Republican nominee cut a ridiculous figure, sporting a red “Make Donald Drumpf Again” baseball cap to guard against rogue breezes that might unhinge his comb-over. He lamented the attendance: “I thought this would be like Dr. Martin Luther King, where the people would be lined up from here all the way to the Washington Monument, right?”

Wrong. So very, very wrong.

He claimed that the anticipated throng was out there, but “unfortunately, they don’t allow ’em to come in.” That was a lie; there were no hordes outside the security perimeter, pleading for admittance. Since everyone present could easily discern the truth, Drumpf must have been lying to himself — perhaps to ease the sting of what can only be seen as an awful week for his campaign.
cont. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... story.html

Talk about a lack of self-awareness.
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Post by laklak » Tue May 31, 2016 2:30 pm

Why is it always bread and circuses? Why can't we have corndogs and county fairs? County fairs are far more fun than a stupid circus, and corndogs are far tastier than plain old bread. You'd have to be a moron to be satisfied with bread and circuses, I want MORE from my government. Nay, I DEMAND more! They work for us, not the other way around.
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Post by Animavore » Tue May 31, 2016 2:33 pm

laklak wrote:Why is it always bread and circuses? Why can't we have corndogs and county fairs? County fairs are far more fun than a stupid circus, and corndogs are far tastier than plain old bread. You'd have to be a moron to be satisfied with bread and circuses, I want MORE from my government. Nay, I DEMAND more! They work for us, not the other way around.
What type of circus do you go to?
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Post by Forty Two » Tue May 31, 2016 2:34 pm

Scot Dutchy wrote:
Donald Trump would allow Keystone XL pipeline and end Paris climate deal
Republican nominee took veiled shots at those who are concerned about global warming and endorsed drilling off the Atlantic coast in a speech on energy policy Donald Trump pledged to cancel the Paris climate agreement, endorsed drilling off the Atlantic coast and said he would allow the Keystone XL pipeline to be built in return for “a big piece of the profits” for the American people.
At an oil and natural gas conference in North Dakota on Thursday, just minutes after he had celebrated hitting the 1,237 delegate mark needed to formally clinch the party’s nomination, Trump gave a speech on energy policy that was largely shaped by advice from Kevin Cramer, a US representative from the state.

In a press conference before the event, Trump praised the advice of oil tycoon Harold Hamm. Hamm and Cramer then introduced him onstage.
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He contrasted this approach with that of Hillary Clinton, whose plan to combat climate change he called “a poverty expansion agenda”. Trump also attacked renewable energy sources, claiming that solar energy was too expensive and attacking wind turbines for “killing eagles”.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016 ... eystone-xl
Cant somebody shoot him! FFS he should be locked up.
The Keystone Pipeline is a great idea. Why can pipelines be built in other countries, but not in the US? There are pipelines all over the world - the only ones that the world seems to protest, of course, are in the United States -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_oil_pipelines

How about Europe dismantle its pipelines --





And, let's see the protests against the Pan European Pipeline -
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Can somebody just shoot the European leaders? I mean, what the fuck is with all these pipelines they've built???? They're maniacs! Maniacs, I say! Shoot them! :biggrin:

Oh, and Trump endorsed drilling off the Atlantic coast!!!!! Whattttt!!!!!???? He's a monster! Just like those European monsters, drilling off of European coasts, in the North Atlantic, all over the North Sea..... http://www.offshore-mag.com/drilling-co ... urope.html And, of course the drilling for natural gas in the Mediterranean Sea -- those MONSTERS are as bad as Trump! Right? LOL - yes, indeed, the US ought never drill offshore. Leave that to the Norwegians, Brits, Israelis, Greeks, French, Danes, Germans..... proper oil drillers....

drill in the Atlantic ..... how can anyone seriously contemplate such activity???? Would be monstrous to do so.... the very concept is absurd...
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Post by Tyrannical » Tue May 31, 2016 2:36 pm

Funny how they like to call him Drumpf. I rember when it was racist to say barrack hussein Obama, which is his actual name.
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Post by Animavore » Tue May 31, 2016 2:38 pm

Tyrannical wrote:Funny how they like to call him Drumpf. I rember when it was racist to say barrack hussein Obama, which is his actual name.
No. It never was.
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Post by laklak » Tue May 31, 2016 2:40 pm

Animavore wrote: What type of circus do you go to?
The kind where you sit and watch acrobats and trapeze people and clowns and stuff. Booooooorrrring. County fairs have all sorts of weird deep-fried foods and dangerous rides run by skeevie carneys. They used to have Freak Shows till the P.C. brigade fucked that up too. How's a flipper boy going to earn a living these days? There are all sorts of midway games, a cheesy Haunted House, and lots of livestock and home made jam competitions.
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Post by Animavore » Tue May 31, 2016 2:41 pm

Forty Two wrote:The Keystone Pipeline is a great idea. Why can pipelines be built in other countries, but not in the US? There are pipelines all over the world - the only ones that the world seems to protest, of course, are in the United States -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_oil_pipelines
Pipelines and dirty extraction, tar sand and fracking projects are being protested all over the world. What the hell are you talking about?
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