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Re: Why creationists can laugh at atheist feminists?

Post by Forty Two » Thu Jan 28, 2016 4:15 pm

Hermit wrote:It's just another typical feminist. Feminists are just like that. Except for all people describing themselves as feminists that I have ever met.
We don't know she's a feminist, do we? I wonder why you would assume that.
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Re: Why creationists can laugh at atheist feminists?

Post by Forty Two » Thu Jan 28, 2016 4:16 pm

laklak wrote:My daughter told me she was a feminist. I said that's nice, honey, now go make me a sammich.
I'd like my daughter to be egalitarian rather than feminist, and I hope she won't be so whiny as to fit in with the leading modern feminists.
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Re: Why creationists can laugh at atheist feminists?

Post by Hermit » Thu Jan 28, 2016 10:13 pm

Forty Two wrote:We don't know she's a feminist, do we? I wonder why you would assume that.
Reporting this post for being criminally stupid.

No. Wait. I'll report it, warning admin that Seth has hijacked Coito's account. I'll suggest they send him a message via the email addy he used to re-register as Forty Two warning him of this and urging him to change his password.
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Re: Why creationists can laugh at atheist feminists?

Post by pErvinalia » Fri Jan 29, 2016 12:55 am

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Re: Why creationists can laugh at atheist feminists?

Post by DaveDodo007 » Fri Jan 29, 2016 3:04 am

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DaveDodo007 wrote:You forgot to provide evidence of feminists caring about equality and explain their callous indifference to German (Sweden and the UK) women being raped and sexually assaulted by rapeugees. I'll wait.
You forgot to do some fact-checking. Here are a couple of photos taken outside Cologne's main railway station:

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and a couple more taken outside Cologne's cathedral.

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Post by pErvinalia » Fri Jan 29, 2016 3:31 am

Most females are feminists. I'd be pretty sure there's a good whack of feminists in there.
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Re: Why creationists can laugh at atheist feminists?

Post by JimC » Fri Jan 29, 2016 3:49 am

rEvolutionist wrote:Most females are feminists.
Do you mean they would self-describe as feminists, or that they would (probably) share a range of values which could reasonably be described as feminist?

("reasonably", in this context, does not of course include the Dodo man's definition... ;) )
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Post by pErvinalia » Fri Jan 29, 2016 3:51 am

Probably both. But self-describing as one (as long as it is an honest declaration) is good enough for me. That's all that should matter.
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Re: Why creationists can laugh at atheist feminists?

Post by JimC » Fri Jan 29, 2016 4:03 am

rEvolutionist wrote:Probably both. But self-describing as one (as long as it is an honest declaration) is good enough for me. That's all that should matter.
The only trouble is that some of the lunatic fringe will call themselves feminist, and imply that you have to accept all their whacko ideas to be a "true feminist", in effect bolstering Forty Two and the Dodo man...

When a variety of people call themselves feminist, you will have a variety of positions involved. What a rational person would conclude is that the majority of people self-describing as feminists do not have the extremist views of the tail end of the bell curve...
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Re: Why creationists can laugh at atheist feminists?

Post by pErvinalia » Fri Jan 29, 2016 4:44 am

Well I think the nutso feminists are still feminists. They are just an extreme implementation of the idea. The same as any ideology. The real question is as you say about the bell curve. Coit and Dodo focus on the tail, while we focus (if at all) on the main body.
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Re: Why creationists can laugh at atheist feminists?

Post by Hermit » Fri Jan 29, 2016 11:58 am

DaveDodo007 wrote:Normal people protesting is not feminism which is too busy making rape and sexual assault apologetics.
English, please.
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Post by pErvinalia » Fri Jan 29, 2016 12:44 pm

That's asking a bit much. :nono:
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Re: Why creationists can laugh at atheist feminists?

Post by Forty Two » Fri Jan 29, 2016 1:57 pm

rEvolutionist wrote:Most females are feminists. I'd be pretty sure there's a good whack of feminists in there.
This is statistically incorrect, as far as I can tell. those identifying as feminists are typically less than 50%, and in the US the last Pew Research poll I saw said 18% overall (men and women combined). I was looking for some Germany-specific stats, but haven't yet found them.
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Re: Why creationists can laugh at atheist feminists?

Post by pErvinalia » Fri Jan 29, 2016 2:07 pm

Silly women hate themselves.
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Re: Why creationists can laugh at atheist feminists?

Post by Hermit » Fri Jan 29, 2016 2:28 pm

Forty Two wrote:those identifying as feminists are typically less than 50%, and in the US the last Pew Research poll I saw said 18% overall (men and women combined).
Well, as usual, US citizens are special. Very special.
A new poll by global research company Ipsos finds that just over half (53%--very much 17%/36% somewhat) of those in 15 developed countries self-identify as a “feminist” – someone who advocates and supports equal opportunities for women.

In fact, while women are not an unexpected majority (57%-- 19% very much/38% somewhat) who may self-identify as a feminist, half of men (48% – 14% very much/34% somewhat) in these countries also identify this way.
Ipsos, May 23, 2014
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