Black Economy Boosts UK GDP

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Post by MrJonno » Thu Sep 04, 2014 2:09 pm

Strontium Dog wrote:I find the people who moan loudest about tax avoidance by big firms etc tend to be those most likely to illegally evade tax by taking cash in hand for services rendered. Probably some perverse moral justification thing going on there.

I want everyone else to pay more taxes and me to pay less , what's perverse about that?
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Post by pErvinalia » Thu Sep 04, 2014 2:12 pm

It's selfish. Like most of your beliefs.
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Post by MrJonno » Thu Sep 04, 2014 2:14 pm

rEvolutionist wrote:It's selfish. Like most of your beliefs.
True but its not perverse and its generally how most people think and act even if they aren't honest enough to admit it
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Post by pErvinalia » Thu Sep 04, 2014 2:16 pm

No, that's just a projection from your own selfish philosophy.
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Post by MrJonno » Thu Sep 04, 2014 2:23 pm

rEvolutionist wrote:No, that's just a projection from your own selfish philosophy.
Yes I'm sure when people go to vote the welfare of others is top on their mind, if it was we would not have any wars and we would all live in Tellytubby world which would be cool as I like the Telly tubbies

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Post by pErvinalia » Thu Sep 04, 2014 2:28 pm

Sure, I've no doubt conservatives and generally stupid people (usually a correspondence there) act out of overt selfishness. But the people who moan about tax avoidance by big companies are usually leftists and politically educated. I doubt very much that most of them act out of overt selfishness. The left is the home of altruism.
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Post by MrJonno » Thu Sep 04, 2014 2:47 pm

rEvolutionist wrote:Sure, I've no doubt conservatives and generally stupid people (usually a correspondence there) act out of overt selfishness. But the people who moan about tax avoidance by big companies are usually leftists and politically educated. I doubt very much that most of them act out of overt selfishness. The left is the home of altruism.
Fantasy is the home of altruism, while we may help others its generally only on the basis that its in our immediate interest or that we may need such help in the future ourselves.

How many people have died in some African hell hole today while we all live in luxury?, what have you done to prevent it?.
I've done bugger all as to be honest I have more important things to do in life but then again I'm not claiming to be a saint.

You know what I might go past a charity shop today and spend a £1 buying a 2nd hand book, groovy good deed for the day saving the starving , I will then proceed to read it on the way home and eat enough food to keep a family of 5 alive for a week. Will I feel guilty, nah I will have forgotten all about them
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Post by Strontium Dog » Thu Sep 04, 2014 3:03 pm

MrJonno wrote:
Strontium Dog wrote:I find the people who moan loudest about tax avoidance by big firms etc tend to be those most likely to illegally evade tax by taking cash in hand for services rendered. Probably some perverse moral justification thing going on there.

I want everyone else to pay more taxes and me to pay less , what's perverse about that?
I want people to pay the taxes they're legally required to, and I want those taxes to be administered as fairly as possible. I blame politicians for tax loopholes, and view attempts to conflate (legal) avoidance with (illegal) evasion as morally suspect. But each to their own.
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Post by laklak » Thu Sep 04, 2014 3:08 pm

rEvolutionist wrote:No, that's just a projection from your own selfish philosophy.
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Post by pErvinalia » Fri Sep 05, 2014 1:03 am

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rEvolutionist wrote:Sure, I've no doubt conservatives and generally stupid people (usually a correspondence there) act out of overt selfishness. But the people who moan about tax avoidance by big companies are usually leftists and politically educated. I doubt very much that most of them act out of overt selfishness. The left is the home of altruism.
Fantasy is the home of altruism, while we may help others its generally only on the basis that its in our immediate interest or that we may need such help in the future ourselves.

How many people have died in some African hell hole today while we all live in luxury?, what have you done to prevent it?.
I've done bugger all as to be honest I have more important things to do in life but then again I'm not claiming to be a saint.

You know what I might go past a charity shop today and spend a £1 buying a 2nd hand book, groovy good deed for the day saving the starving , I will then proceed to read it on the way home and eat enough food to keep a family of 5 alive for a week. Will I feel guilty, nah I will have forgotten all about them
You do a remarkable job of making yourself sound like a prick. Well done.
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Nothing wrong with lying to others but never lie to yourself
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Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Mon Sep 08, 2014 1:49 am

Rev, this is your last warning - you should know our rules on personal attacks better than most by now. Any more posts like the one 2 above this and you get a holiday.
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Post by pErvinalia » Fri Sep 12, 2014 10:33 am

When was my first warning? :lay:
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Post by Svartalf » Fri Sep 12, 2014 10:59 am

long ago, and you dinna heed it.
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Re: Black Economy Boosts UK GDP

Post by MrJonno » Fri Sep 12, 2014 11:13 am

I'm quite happy to call myself a prick, its a vital organ and lets face it dominates all forms of politics and life itself
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