Psychopath coin toss
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Psychopath coin toss
Taken from New Scientist 7 Dec. page 29.
Prisoners near the end of their sentence often go to a probation meeting, where decisions are made about their release, based on an estimate of the chances of them reoffending.
Seena Fazel, Research Fellow at the University of Oxford, reports that the situation for psychopaths is more than problematic. Psychopaths make up 10% of Britain's prison population, and this group is over represented in statistics of very serious and violent crime when reoffending.
So what is the accuracy of assessing their reoffending rate? According to the research done by Fazel and colleagues, it is equal to tossing a coin.
Prisoners near the end of their sentence often go to a probation meeting, where decisions are made about their release, based on an estimate of the chances of them reoffending.
Seena Fazel, Research Fellow at the University of Oxford, reports that the situation for psychopaths is more than problematic. Psychopaths make up 10% of Britain's prison population, and this group is over represented in statistics of very serious and violent crime when reoffending.
So what is the accuracy of assessing their reoffending rate? According to the research done by Fazel and colleagues, it is equal to tossing a coin.
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Cut their goolies off. Reduces testosterone,Blind groper wrote:Taken from New Scientist 7 Dec. page 29.
Prisoners near the end of their sentence often go to a probation meeting, where decisions are made about their release, based on an estimate of the chances of them reoffending.
Seena Fazel, Research Fellow at the University of Oxford, reports that the situation for psychopaths is more than problematic. Psychopaths make up 10% of Britain's prison population, and this group is over represented in statistics of very serious and violent crime when reoffending.
So what is the accuracy of assessing their reoffending rate? According to the research done by Fazel and colleagues, it is equal to tossing a coin.

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I take it "goolies" has a different meaning over there...


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Re: Psychopath coin toss
Seems odd to me that they would use such a term when there is no such medical/psychiatric/psychological diagnosis as psychopathy.
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Fucking nutcases is the scientific term I think
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Perhaps.
But the term 'psychopath' along with its synonym 'sociopath' is in wide use, and has a clear definition.
But the term 'psychopath' along with its synonym 'sociopath' is in wide use, and has a clear definition.
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I read the same article, BG...
Whatever label we apply, clearly it would be a good idea if we could improve our prediction rates as to the chance of re-offending if released on probation. However, there is another, more straightforward possibility - simply do not release violent offenders till they've done their full term, no gambling required...
Whatever label we apply, clearly it would be a good idea if we could improve our prediction rates as to the chance of re-offending if released on probation. However, there is another, more straightforward possibility - simply do not release violent offenders till they've done their full term, no gambling required...
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...and cut their goolies off.JimC wrote:I read the same article, BG...
Whatever label we apply, clearly it would be a good idea if we could improve our prediction rates as to the chance of re-offending if released on probation. However, there is another, more straightforward possibility - simply do not release violent offenders till they've done their full term, no gambling required...
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To Jim
While I agree with you, you are only postponing the problem. If a murderer, for example, is sentenced to 20 years, and he is a psychopath, then releasing him after 20 years still puts society at risk. Any suggestion? Apart from that coming from Monty Python, of course.
While I agree with you, you are only postponing the problem. If a murderer, for example, is sentenced to 20 years, and he is a psychopath, then releasing him after 20 years still puts society at risk. Any suggestion? Apart from that coming from Monty Python, of course.
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He is at least older, possibly more feeble, and has had a few years less to commit crimes, so, on average, there should be a reduction in recidivist murders...Blind groper wrote:To Jim
While I agree with you, you are only postponing the problem. If a murderer, for example, is sentenced to 20 years, and he is a psychopath, then releasing him after 20 years still puts society at risk. Any suggestion? Apart from that coming from Monty Python, of course.
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Reasonable answer, Jim, but nowhere near an actual solution to the problem. It would be nice if we could apply a rehabilitation program and fix the psychopath, but no one can do that yet. So how do we solve the problem that a psychopath released after his term is very likely to re-offend, or even kill another person?
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If we can't come up with a more efficient predictive method, then my answer at least should slightly reduce the harm.Blind groper wrote:Reasonable answer, Jim, but nowhere near an actual solution to the problem. It would be nice if we could apply a rehabilitation program and fix the psychopath, but no one can do that yet. So how do we solve the problem that a psychopath released after his term is very likely to re-offend, or even kill another person?
Perhaps certain types of violent, psychopathic offenders should have some form of permanent locator fitted, or even implanted, when they are released, so they will know that police would always be able to link them to the scene of a crime, which may be a deterrent...
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Linked to brain sensors which detect violent thoughts...JacksSmirkingRevenge wrote:Exploding collars...
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I have an alternate point of view. I think that those who are considered long term dangers to society should be placed in a 'quarantine facility'. This would not be a prison, in that it is not designed to punish, but to separate. That means permitting the denizens therein to have computers, TV's etc., to make their lives more bearable. However, the big thing is not to release them till they are so old that they are unlikely to offend again.
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