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Post by Coito ergo sum » Thu Jun 27, 2013 7:23 pm

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Xamonas Chegwé wrote:I heard that you can't get a US visa if you have ever had in-patient care for any mental health issue. I don't know how true that is but the person that told me was refused on those grounds. That was back in the 80s though, so things could have changed.
The only mental disorders that would make someone ineligible for admission to the US would be those that are likely to recur and likely to be harmful or dangerous to people or property. So, diagnosed pedophiles, psychopaths and such would fit in that category -- pyromaniacs - kleptomaniacs - etc., but neurotics, adjustment disorders, standard depression or anxiety, that's unlikely to present an issue as far as admission.
Thinking about it, she may have just been ineligible for the visa waiver (although that wasn't how she phrased it.) She was in for a week or so for depression after a nervous breakdown which included driving her car into a river.
That's because the forms used for visa waiver are minimal and perfunctory, and they do no investigation. To determine if someone's diagnosed condition is a danger requires a background check.

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Re: UK bars American bloggers from entering

Post by JimC » Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:06 pm

I think it all depends what they are actually blogging. Unless they are actually urging people to blow up mosques and kill muslims, how critical of Islam they are, even if it is expressed virulently, should not be a bar to entering the UK, IMO...
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Post by Brian Peacock » Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:17 pm

I agree with Jim. They are a bit 'whitey mighty' though.
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Post by Audley Strange » Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:21 pm

JimC wrote:I think it all depends what they are actually blogging. Unless they are actually urging people to blow up mosques and kill muslims, how critical of Islam they are, even if it is expressed virulently, should not be a bar to entering the UK, IMO...
They're dicks, but if we used that to bar people entering the country, our airports would be detentions centre for our own citizens.
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Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:27 pm

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JimC wrote:I think it all depends what they are actually blogging. Unless they are actually urging people to blow up mosques and kill muslims, how critical of Islam they are, even if it is expressed virulently, should not be a bar to entering the UK, IMO...
They're dicks, but if we used that to bar people entering the country, our airports would be detentions centre for our own citizens.
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Re: UK bars American bloggers from entering

Post by PsychoSerenity » Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:41 pm

I do find it slightly amusing that they're being kept from attending an EDL rally by rules, applied fairly, that have previously kept muslim preachers out of the country, and that the EDL generally want more of as long as it only targets people they don't like.
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Post by Coito ergo sum » Fri Jun 28, 2013 12:31 pm

PsychoSerenity wrote:I do find it slightly amusing that they're being kept from attending an EDL rally by rules, applied fairly, that have previously kept muslim preachers out of the country, and that the EDL generally want more of as long as it only targets people they don't like.
I would be interested to see examples of Muslims who were, in fact, kept out of the UK for similar reasons.

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Post by Clinton Huxley » Fri Jun 28, 2013 12:33 pm

We've enough arses without letting more in. Though it seems the US has taken Jeremy Kyle, so maybe we should relent.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Fri Jun 28, 2013 12:35 pm

Aye Sir. They're just getting us back for Piers Morgan.
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Post by Audley Strange » Fri Jun 28, 2013 12:35 pm

Jeremy Kyle is worse than a Racist.
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Post by Svartalf » Fri Jun 28, 2013 12:36 pm

Maybe the EDL should organize their rallies in Merika?
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Post by Brian Peacock » Fri Jun 28, 2013 12:38 pm

Who are the EDL exactly? No really? Who are they? We often see the collections of uneducated football supporter types in the news but who's actually the brainz behind the bullybeef?
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Post by Clinton Huxley » Fri Jun 28, 2013 12:39 pm

Svartalf wrote:Maybe the EDL should organize their rallies in Merika?
I hear that some members of the EDL are fans of the KKK, so that could happen
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Post by Coito ergo sum » Fri Jun 28, 2013 12:41 pm

Svartalf wrote:Maybe the EDL should organize their rallies in Merika?
They'd certainly be welcome to express their views, although they would not be immune from criticism themselves.

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Re: UK bars American bloggers from entering

Post by Svartalf » Fri Jun 28, 2013 12:41 pm

Brian Peacock wrote:Who are the EDL exactly? No really? Who are they? We often see the collections of uneducated football supporter types in the news but who's actually the brainz behind the bullybeef?
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