SCOTUS Gay Marriage Decisions Should be Out Today

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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Wed Jun 26, 2013 3:32 pm

You should also consider that a majority in one region might not represent a majority in the entire US.
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Post by Coito ergo sum » Wed Jun 26, 2013 3:59 pm

Gawdzilla Sama wrote:You should also consider that a majority in one region might not represent a majority in the entire US.
DOMA was national.

California is a discrete sovereignty with a legislature in Sacramento, and people who vote for propositions as a democracy.

I'm in favor of the majority of Californians being restricted by the equal protection clause of the US constitution. I'm in favor of that check on democracy.

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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Wed Jun 26, 2013 4:37 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:You should also consider that a majority in one region might not represent a majority in the entire US.
DOMA was national.

California is a discrete sovereignty with a legislature in Sacramento, and people who vote for propositions as a democracy.

I'm in favor of the majority of Californians being restricted by the equal protection clause of the US constitution. I'm in favor of that check on democracy.
Was DOMA voted on?
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Post by Coito ergo sum » Wed Jun 26, 2013 4:44 pm

Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:You should also consider that a majority in one region might not represent a majority in the entire US.
DOMA was national.

California is a discrete sovereignty with a legislature in Sacramento, and people who vote for propositions as a democracy.

I'm in favor of the majority of Californians being restricted by the equal protection clause of the US constitution. I'm in favor of that check on democracy.
Was DOMA voted on?

Yes, by elected representatives.

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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Wed Jun 26, 2013 4:58 pm

Then it wasn't done by a majority of voters. Simples.
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Post by Coito ergo sum » Wed Jun 26, 2013 5:00 pm

Gawdzilla Sama wrote:Then it wasn't done by a majority of voters. Simples.
For 99% of laws passed in a democracy, they are passed by the legislature. The legislature is elected by the people.

It's nice to have constitutional limitations on those democratically elected folks, innit?

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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Wed Jun 26, 2013 5:02 pm

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Post by Coito ergo sum » Wed Jun 26, 2013 5:14 pm

Gawdzilla Sama wrote:I give up.
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Post by MrJonno » Wed Jun 26, 2013 5:45 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:Then it wasn't done by a majority of voters. Simples.
For 99% of laws passed in a democracy, they are passed by the legislature. The legislature is elected by the people.

It's nice to have constitutional limitations on those democratically elected folks, innit?
No its appalling, if the people want a moronic society then they should be allowed it and if you are minority in such a society its time to get out fast. Having unelected politicians overruling (the fact they voted 5 to 4 shows its not a legal or constitutional matter its a political one ) is tyranny. A tyranny of a majority is a contradiction in terms only minorities can ever rule by absolute power
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Wed Jun 26, 2013 5:55 pm

MrJonno wrote:No its appalling, if the people want a moronic society then they should be allowed it and if you are minority in such a society its time to get out fast. Having unelected politicians overruling (the fact they voted 5 to 4 shows its not a legal or constitutional matter its a political one ) is tyranny. A tyranny of a majority is a contradiction in terms only minorities can ever rule by absolute power
The structure is in our Constitution, so it's not some weird tyrannical enactment.
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Post by MrJonno » Wed Jun 26, 2013 6:05 pm

The structure is in our Constitution, so it's not some weird tyrannical enactment.
Constitutions are not the ultimate authority people are and if they aren't elected its tyranny
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Wed Jun 26, 2013 6:11 pm

MrJonno wrote:
The structure is in our Constitution, so it's not some weird tyrannical enactment.
Constitutions are not the ultimate authority people are and if they aren't elected its tyranny
Your opinion.
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Post by MrJonno » Wed Jun 26, 2013 6:12 pm

Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
MrJonno wrote:
The structure is in our Constitution, so it's not some weird tyrannical enactment.
Constitutions are not the ultimate authority people are and if they aren't elected its tyranny
Your opinion.
When pieces of paper become sentient and starts talking a constitution may become authority until then its people
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Post by Svartalf » Wed Jun 26, 2013 6:14 pm

MrJonno wrote:
The structure is in our Constitution, so it's not some weird tyrannical enactment.
Constitutions are not the ultimate authority people are and if they aren't elected its tyranny
Actually, until it is cast down by a complete collapse of the State, or by being Amended out of existence, the US Constitution IS the ultimate authority in that state.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Wed Jun 26, 2013 6:21 pm

MrJonno wrote:When pieces of paper become sentient and starts talking a constitution may become authority until then its people
I know you have a "better" system, but I'm not interesting it hearing about it.
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