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Post by Tero » Thu Jun 06, 2013 4:17 pm

Since independence, economy rocketed. Finns were initially printing their currency. Now they have euros. Maybe still minted in Finland?


Tallin in Estonia experimenting with
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Population 400 000. I don't think there was a serious traffic problem, but old part is medieval with narrow streets.

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Post by mistermack » Thu Jun 06, 2013 4:36 pm

All I know about Estonia is that when one of their ferries sinks, the population halves.
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Post by Tero » Thu Jun 06, 2013 4:42 pm

I had sailed on that ferry, before the Finns sold it to them. The front gate was unreliable and the captain speeding.

Estonians have bought up all the ferry business in the Baltic. You may think you are sailing Stockholm to Helsinki but the Estonians run it. New captains, I hope.

Roads are crap now, they need to connect to Germany.

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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Thu Jun 06, 2013 4:46 pm

The Estonians were the only people during WWII to do something or other. :prof:
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Post by Azathoth » Thu Jun 06, 2013 4:46 pm

They make pretty decent beer
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Post by Svartalf » Thu Jun 06, 2013 5:10 pm

Tero wrote:I had sailed on that ferry, before the Finns sold it to them. The front gate was unreliable and the captain speeding.

Estonians have bought up all the ferry business in the Baltic. You may think you are sailing Stockholm to Helsinki but the Estonians run it. New captains, I hope.

Roads are crap now, they need to connect to Germany.
How are the roads in Latvia, Lithuania and Poland?

Plus, as I hear, most of those ferries come from Sweden, with the Swedes going to tallinn to blow off steam.
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Post by Tero » Thu Jun 06, 2013 5:33 pm

I always go from Stockholm to Turku, then train. Silja owns boats but the Estonians have all the crews and operations.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silja_line
Viking line may still be in Åland family hands.

Makes no difference, Helsinki Turku or Tallin route, all boats are full of drunks, the Swedes go for a cheap weekend.

Finns drive ferry ...Stockholm...route to Europe as St Petersburg route is useless, your car insurance wont cover it. Like Mexico.

Estonia to Poland should be workable in future, all EU.

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Post by Tero » Thu Jun 06, 2013 6:10 pm

I checked the driving and you can in fact get insurance in Russia but if you were just going to Baltic countries, the ferries will take your car from Sweden.

Never have checked train travel through those areas.

Finland is essentially an island, best routes are already in use: Stockholm.

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Post by Tero » Thu Jun 06, 2013 7:52 pm

Gawdzilla Sama wrote:The Estonians were the only people during WWII to do something or other. :prof:
Shine Stalin's shoes?

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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Thu Jun 06, 2013 11:14 pm

Tero wrote:
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:The Estonians were the only people during WWII to do something or other. :prof:
Shine Stalin's shoes?
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