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Post by Svartalf » Wed May 01, 2013 5:28 am

Not to mention that she was made to inseminate herself without the benefit of sex, regardless of whether she was horny or not.
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Post by Seth » Wed May 01, 2013 5:30 pm

rEvolutionist wrote:I doubt she wanted to be "fucked" by a syringe.
Did you ask her? Maybe she wanted a baby but didn't want to be fucked by some pimply-faced horny teenager. Maybe she's a lesbian. Stranger things have happened.
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Re: Mother forced daughter, 14, into sperm insemination - UK

Post by Cormac » Wed May 01, 2013 5:34 pm

Collector1337 wrote:
Cormac wrote:
Collector1337 wrote:Only in "civilized society."

A blatant falsehood.

You seem to be saying that abuse of young boys and girls only happens in civilised society, which is blatantly untrue. Furthermore, this kind of exceptional case is outrageous because of the disgusting abuse, but also precisely because it is unusual.

No society is immune to the ravages of depraved humans. "Civilised" protects people from such ravages better than most.
Pffft. That's not what I'm saying.

Having read your later comments, I realise that you're on an adolescent whinge fest. Have at it.
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Re: Mother forced daughter, 14, into sperm insemination - UK

Post by Seth » Wed May 01, 2013 5:38 pm

Svartalf wrote:Not to mention that she was made to inseminate herself without the benefit of sex, regardless of whether she was horny or not.
"Made?" She was sent to inseminate herself, which she appears to have done. It doesn't look like she was strapped down to the bed and forcibly inseminated by her mother, it looks like she cooperated. It's possible she was coerced, but I'm merely saying that one should not make snap judgments, and somebody ought to ask the girl if she was a willing participant. After all, if she was, she was NOT "sexually assaulted" given what the story says. She "assaulted" herself, which is usually called "masturbation" and isn't a crime. I know of no law that prohibits a 14 year old from inseminating herself using donor sperm. It's only illegal for the sperm donor (or anyone else) to inject the sperm themselves.

That's the conundrum here. Was a crime committed? It's entirely possible that no crime was committed, and that the girl was voluntarily involved.

I'd like to know, so I'd like someone to ask the girl what her opinion and feelings on the matter are before getting all judgmental and junk.

After all, if she's old enough to bleed, she's old enough to breed, as is self-evident in this case, so biologically there is nothing amiss here. All the outrage is purely social and has to do with contemporary mores. Girls of 14 were quite commonly called "mothers" only a hundred years ago, when it was perfectly legal for 14 year olds to marry. Sixteen is the "statutory age" in the UK I believe, although it's generally 18 in the US. In some states in the US it's STILL legal for 13 year old girls to be married with parental and court consent.

I don't see that it's impossible that the girl did not love her barren mother enough to surrogate a baby for her.
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Post by JacksSmirkingRevenge » Wed May 01, 2013 5:47 pm

It's possible she was coerced...
Described in the judgment as having "an exceptionally forceful personality", the mother wanted to be the sole influence in the lives of her daughters, whom she schooled at home behind drawn curtains and kept isolated from the world.
Sounds a lot like coercion to me. - Not to mention weird.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Wed May 01, 2013 6:15 pm

Cormac wrote:Having read your later comments, I realise that you're on an adolescent whinge fest. Have at it.
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Post by Collector1337 » Wed May 01, 2013 6:22 pm

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Cormac wrote:Having read your later comments, I realise that you're on an adolescent whinge fest. Have at it.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Wed May 01, 2013 6:31 pm

Why would I believe anything Seeth says?
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Re: Mother forced daughter, 14, into sperm insemination - UK

Post by Cormac » Wed May 01, 2013 11:09 pm

Collector1337 wrote:
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
Cormac wrote:Having read your later comments, I realise that you're on an adolescent whinge fest. Have at it.
He's Seeth's sock.
LOL! No. But, it's funny you think that.

I suppose if douche bags stopped calling the US uncivilized because we enjoy liberty then I would stop complaining. Food for thought.
Perfect food, in fact, for a whinge fest.

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Re: Mother forced daughter, 14, into sperm insemination - UK

Post by pErvinalia » Thu May 02, 2013 12:09 am

Seth wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote:I doubt she wanted to be "fucked" by a syringe.
Did you ask her? Maybe she wanted a baby but didn't want to be fucked by some pimply-faced horny teenager. Maybe she's a lesbian. Stranger things have happened.
Or maybe she was taken advantage of by her deadbeat parent. Unthinkable, I know.
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