Detroit: The Shape of Things To Come?

[Coito ergo sum]

http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2013/04/30/ ... n-america/

DETROIT (WWJ) - It’s a clean sweep for Detroit, but nothing to be proud of, as the city takes the top three spots on a list of the most dangerous neighborhoods in America.

[Robert_S]

Detroit was a monoculture, so when the reason died, so did the city. Chicago is diverse, and also the largest city in the central US.

That doesn't explain why a place with cheap property, lots of labour looking for work, and free access to the US market, can't attract business.
Not everybody trades within a few blocks of their HQ. these days. Just because Detroit is suffering, that doesn't stop businesses snapping up all this cheap infrastructure.

The Germans are paying millions, for buildings like that. And still selling stuff all round the USA.
Detroit has huge advantages over Dortmund. Cheap labour, cheap property, and cheap shipping to the USA.

Something's wrong with capitalism here, if it can't adjust to conditions.

But was it a place where people liked to live? Was there much in the way of culture, arts, entertainment, architecture, parks, and all the other things that make a city attractive?

[Tyrannical]

Reminds me a lot of areas around Chernobyl.

...Hasn't Detroit always been a bit of a shit-hole, though?

Not until the civil rights movement, it used to be the Paris of the West.

[Coito ergo sum]

Detroit was a monoculture, so when the reason died, so did the city. Chicago is diverse, and also the largest city in the central US.

That doesn't explain why a place with cheap property, lots of labour looking for work, and free access to the US market, can't attract business.
Not everybody trades within a few blocks of their HQ. these days. Just because Detroit is suffering, that doesn't stop businesses snapping up all this cheap infrastructure.

The Germans are paying millions, for buildings like that. And still selling stuff all round the USA.
Detroit has huge advantages over Dortmund. Cheap labour, cheap property, and cheap shipping to the USA.

Something's wrong with capitalism here, if it can't adjust to conditions.

But was it a place where people liked to live? Was there much in the way of culture, arts, entertainment, architecture, parks, and all the other things that make a city attractive?

It was once referred to as the Paris of the West, because of its architecture, and especially when Washington Blvd was at its heyday.

[Twoflower]

There's a giant fist sculpture.

[Coito ergo sum]

There's a giant fist sculpture.

Yes, placed right there as the first thing you see when you come off of the Lodge and/or Route 94 and onto Jefferson Avenue downtown: a big, black fist.

It is Joe Louis' fist, of course, but it does make a statement as the first thing you see coming to downtown.

[Audley Strange]

Yes. Eventually there will be no need for cities at all and we will all live in endless suburbia. close to the omni-distribution centres where we all work part-time, maintaining robots or delivering crap to each other.

The socialist's dream. Evenly distribute the population to eliminate the distinction between cities and the countryside. It's one of the pillars of Marxist socialism.

Funny that it slots in so well with online based capitalism isn't it?

I'm not sure I follah...

There is no need for expenses like shops. Thus the cluster around the physical marketplace is not necessary. It is more cost efficient therefore profitable to have stuff delivered to customers within reach of one of your many distribution centres than it is for them to come for it, for both you and the customer. It's progress of an idea which has nearly come full circle, when the local businesses used to deliver, only corporate.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Reminds me a lot of areas around Chernobyl.

...Hasn't Detroit always been a bit of a shit-hole, though?

Not until the civil rights movement, it used to be the Paris of the West.

Monotonous moron is monotonous.

[Coito ergo sum]

Yes. Eventually there will be no need for cities at all and we will all live in endless suburbia. close to the omni-distribution centres where we all work part-time, maintaining robots or delivering crap to each other.

The socialist's dream. Evenly distribute the population to eliminate the distinction between cities and the countryside. It's one of the pillars of Marxist socialism.

Funny that it slots in so well with online based capitalism isn't it?

I'm not sure I follah...

There is no need for expenses like shops. Thus the cluster around the physical marketplace is not necessary. It is more cost efficient therefore profitable to have stuff delivered to customers within reach of one of your many distribution centres than it is for them to come for it, for both you and the customer. It's progress of an idea which has nearly come full circle, when the local businesses used to deliver, only corporate.

Well, the centralization of population into urban areas has increased, not decreased.

[Coito ergo sum]

Reminds me a lot of areas around Chernobyl.

...Hasn't Detroit always been a bit of a shit-hole, though?

Not until the civil rights movement, it used to be the Paris of the West.

Monotonous moron is monotonous.

He is correct. However, he implies causation where that may not be the case. I will say there is a good argument that racism played a big role in it, though.

[Tyrannical]

Reminds me a lot of areas around Chernobyl.

...Hasn't Detroit always been a bit of a shit-hole, though?

Not until the civil rights movement, it used to be the Paris of the West.

Monotonous moron is monotonous.

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

Whenever Blacks gather in sufficient numbers such that they control the local government, society collapses. It seems to happen every single time no matter where in the World you are. The reason is that behavior is heavily influenced by genetics.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Monotonous moron is monotonous.

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

Which is why I find your monotonous ranting insane.

[Tyrannical]

Posts: 143326 - lame trolling attempts = ?

You probably aren't too old to try practicing rational discourse if you worked at it. Point, counter point instead of point, troll attempt.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Posts: 143326 - lame trolling attempts = ?

You probably aren't too old to try practicing rational discourse if you worked at it. Point, counter point instead of point, troll attempt.

Insane, demonstrably. Have you ever tried not being a bigot? You weren't born that way, it's a lifestyle choice. And a stupid one.

[laklak]

I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit, it's the only way to be sure.