rEvolutionist wrote:Coito ergo sum wrote:rEvolutionist wrote:JimC wrote:rEvolutionist wrote:Dole bludgers. Gateway to blowing stuff up.
I know you're taking the piss, and being rightly sarcastic about a causal link...
But...
If the guy had been fully involved in something, a challenging career or course of studies, then maybe the festering resentment and ultimate capture by jihadist ideas wouldn't have happened...
The devil finds work for idle hands...

Quite possibly true. It's just that it is the daily fail, and they capitalised WELFARE just to make sure we all got the message.
Not a "gateway" to terrorism, but in this country there is too much dole fraud. People lie through their teeth and get free stuff.
Probably because you have terrible social welfare there for the less well off.
Clearly not, but not knowing what you're talking about has never stopped you before.
rEvolutionist wrote:
If I was struggling to pay medical costs and food etc, I'd probably rort the system as much as I could. And it's typical of conservatives like you to get all frothy about the tiny amounts of money involved in welfare cheating, and not about the insane amounts of corporate welfare that go on in your country.
Cock-knocker, I'm not conservative, and I am very much against corporate welfare, which is why I have been against all the bailouts and Stimulus payments to corporations. I am against subsidies to private corporations in general Yes, I'm against welfare fraud, and I bet you are more in support of corporate welfare than I am, because I bet you 100% support bailing out financial instituations, automobile companies and the like, right?
The people I am referring to are probably making more money than you. Only they do it under the table. I know illegals here in the US that make around $80,000 per year, by their own admission, and get food stamps and Medicaid because they hide their income.
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Not to mention things like offshore tax havens. Those rich fucks who shuffle their money out of your country and avoid taxation on it are stealing a FAR greater wealth from the country/society than a small number of people at the bottom of the pile.
I'm against offshore tax havens.
I am also against these crooks sitting at home, able-bodies, and collecting welfare.
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I know a couple, for example, that are having a baby. The mother works as a cleaning lady, mainly working with unreported income (I know this, because she has disclosed that she was collecting EBT (food stamps -- food assistance - a monthly stipend to pay for groceries and stuff, although it can be used for almost anything) and other government assistance. So, she must have lied about the money she makes, because she has a full weekly schedule of houses. What they do is they ask to be paid in cash, or they cash checks at check-cashing stores and such, so they can try to hide the money.
Well, so the mother and father registered the baby's birth without a father listed, even though they know who the father is. They won't get married and he won't legally acknowledge the kid. So, she can keep applying for benefits as single mom making no money. They are scammers -- they even know to not bring a car safety seat to the hospital, because they know that if they don't have one and if they say they can't afford one, then the hospital will provide them with a free one.
They are not isolated cases. The system is rife with such abject scum. Lying pieces of human refuse.
Didn't read it. I get too upset hearing a conservative getting stuck into the poor, when it is the politicians and rich in your country that are engaged in the biggest heist. Conservatives can fuck off and die as far as I am concerned. Conservatives are the scum of the earth.
The point is - they aren't fucking poor. A cleaning lady here makes $35k easy. They don't pay taxes on it, because they hid the fucking money. And, the husband I was referring to is in construction and flooring, and together they most likely make $100,000 a year. He owns a house -- fairly nice -- and a brand new truck.
Conservatives can fuck off, as far as I'm concerned, too. It's not "conservative" to be against people robbing and committing fraud. To be in favor of it, to defend it like you do, that takes a special kind of assholery that is hard to come by. It's someone like you who is among the dregs of society. Bitching for handouts and demanding free stuff, and claiming that it is good for people to commit fraud.
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EDIT - oh, and of course, when they scam like this, they get medicaid, so they pay nothing to have the baby. NOTHING. No deductibles. Nothing. They even get free infant formula.
OMG the horror!!1! That must be like 10's of dollars, right? :fuckoff:
To have a baby? Out of pocket, the cost is more like $20k or $30k all totalled. If you pay for insurance, like most people do, then you pay an insurance premium and are entitled to the benefits. On top of that, most people pay their taxes, too, which funds the Medicaid and other dole benefits.
The deadbeats that evade paying taxes, and commit fraud by understating their incomes to collect benefits they aren't entitled to are criminals. They are committing fraud crimes. But, by all means, defend them.