Obama's Marxist politics stink so badly...

[Tyrannical]

They're losing their iron grip on China's popular culture as they do. China defies a label because it's evolving so fast, on the relative scale on which cultural evolution has occurred for all other nations.

I agree it is quick, and they face the danger of populist revolts. However, if they keep the Red Army sweet, with lots of opportunity for corruption, they can face these down...

I don't think they Chinese want freedom and democracy. Why would they? Those are Western cultural values that are alien to them. Their biggest gripe is with corruption. As long as the government provides stability and an increasingly level of prosperity they are content under a dictatorship. If there is going to be a revolt, it will be over an economic recession , not for freedom and democracy.

[MrJonno]

Don't think anyone really revolts overs 'freedom and democracy' they do so over being hungry and not feeling secure (ie the state trying to kill them)

[Gawdzilla Sama]

I'm now interested in how our claimant will try to weasel out from under the absurdity of his claim.

[sandinista]

They're losing their iron grip on China's popular culture as they do. China defies a label because it's evolving so fast, on the relative scale on which cultural evolution has occurred for all other nations.

I agree it is quick, and they face the danger of populist revolts. However, if they keep the Red Army sweet, with lots of opportunity for corruption, they can face these down...

I don't think they Chinese want freedom and democracy. Why would they? Those are Western cultural values that are alien to them. Their biggest gripe is with corruption. As long as the government provides stability and an increasingly level of prosperity they are content under a dictatorship. If there is going to be a revolt, it will be over an economic recession , not for freedom and democracy.

Why would anyone revolt over "freedom" and "democracy"? "Freedom" doesn't really mean anything, it means something different to everyone so kind of hard to base a revolt on that. "Democracy" finds itself in pretty much the same boat. "Voting" is a meaningless act, a smoke screen to give the illusion of democracy.

[MrJonno]

Freedom and democracy are nice to have luxuries once you have the basics sorted out, and sure people want luxuries but to die for them not likely. People may risk their lives for their mates and to defend their families but for ideology not a chance

[sandinista]

Freedom and democracy are nice to have luxuries once you have the basics sorted out, and sure people want luxuries but to die for them not likely. People may risk their lives for their mates and to defend their families but for ideology not a chance

Besides that, what is "freedom" and "democracy" anyway? Not really luxuries, but vague concepts.

[Seth]

In Sethism, there isn't much room left after he labels Obama a Marxist. If he calls a centre-right capitalist a Marxist, then what is there left to call the real commies?

"Democrats".

To be more precise "Democrats that support gun control".
With guns in the hands of every second citizen, you will have a guarantee of freedom and prosperity.
Like in Somalia.
I believe it really works well there.

Your ignorance of the facts in Somalia is unsurprising. The only people in Somalia who are armed are the bandits and warlords and their minions. The average Somali doesn't have a firearm, and didn't even before the collapse of the government, which, like EVERY OTHER nation in Africa, stringently regulates and bans firearms for ordinary citizens.

Like everywhere else that tyrants and despots rule, the problem is not enough guns in the hands of the common citizenry, which makes them incapable of overthrowing the despotism.

[Seth]

The difference between Marxist/Socialist countries and the United States is that Marxist countries build fences and walls to keep people IN, while the United States builds walls and fences to keep people OUT.

I thought you said the American President was a Marxist?

He is. That does not mean that the United States is a Marxist state...yet. Obama is just a Marxist sleeper agent who managed to get elected by lying through his teeth constantly.

So Obama lied by not revealing his intention to bring forward Marxist policies?

Yup. And lied by omission.

I'm confused. If he doesn't ACTUALLY bring forward any marxist policies at all in his 2nd term, just as he didn't in his 1st, how will you explain that? He forgot?

He has. Just look at the massive executive action via regulation that Cass Sunstein has been implementing. It's not overtly Marxist, because it's too soon for that. It's a "death of a thousand cuts" plan to infuse the nation with Marxist policies and practices over the long, long term.

[Red Celt]

In Sethism, there isn't much room left after he labels Obama a Marxist. If he calls a centre-right capitalist a Marxist, then what is there left to call the real commies?

"Democrats".

To be more precise "Democrats that support gun control".
With guns in the hands of every second citizen, you will have a guarantee of freedom and prosperity.
Like in Somalia.
I believe it really works well there.

Your ignorance of the facts in Somalia is unsurprising. The only people in Somalia who are armed are the bandits and warlords and their minions. The average Somali doesn't have a firearm, and didn't even before the collapse of the government, which, like EVERY OTHER nation in Africa, stringently regulates and bans firearms for ordinary citizens.

Like everywhere else that tyrants and despots rule, the problem is not enough guns in the hands of the common citizenry, which makes them incapable of overthrowing the despotism.

Common citizen + gun = bandit

[Gawdzilla Sama]

The warlords certainly didn't recruit from the many military academies that dot the Somalia landscape.

[Red Celt]

The warlords certainly didn't recruit from the many military academies that dot the Somalia landscape.

You haven't heard of West Point, Mogadishu? Which is slightly ironic, given the location (and Eastern-pointiness) of Somalia.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

The warlords certainly didn't recruit from the many military academies that dot the Somalia landscape.

You haven't heard of West Point, Mogadishu? Which is slightly ironic, given the location (and Eastern-pointiness) of Somalia.

Ah yes, been there. Here's a pic of the dorms, with Trinity Chapel East on the right.

[Ian]

26 ways Obama has completely ruined the country: http://www.buzzfeed.com/daves4/ways-oba ... he-country

[ronmcd]

I'm confused. If he doesn't ACTUALLY bring forward any marxist policies at all in his 2nd term, just as he didn't in his 1st, how will you explain that? He forgot?

He has. Just look at the massive executive action via regulation that Cass Sunstein has been implementing. It's not overtly Marxist, because it's too soon for that. It's a "death of a thousand cuts" plan to infuse the nation with Marxist policies and practices over the long, long term.

He has, or he hasn't. You can't have it both ways, interpreting the fact he hasn't as just a matter of time is, well, odd. Paranoid even.

By that logic you Seth are a raging socialist/commie/marxist/libertarian/anarchist/republican/democrat. Sure, you haven't actually done anything to promote this new (confused) manifesto, but I have to assume you have a nefarious plan and it's only a matter of time ...

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Haven't you noticed he just types? Whatever lands on the screen gets posted. He don't care.