Russia has a new boomer

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Re: Russia has a new boomer

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:56 am

Tero wrote:Now I won't have to start that.

One shoots missiles through ice caps? How much ice?
You punch through to the surface first. Fun to watch. :coffee:
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Post by MrJonno » Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:30 pm

Modern Russian technology versus the ice , my bets are on hydrogen bonding
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MrJonno wrote:Modern Russian technology versus the ice , my bets are on hydrogen bonding
You'd loose.

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Post by MrJonno » Fri Jan 11, 2013 1:00 pm

That a modern picture?, or their current crap
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Fri Jan 11, 2013 1:02 pm

MrJonno wrote:That a modern picture?, or their current crap
That's the Nautilus.

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Post by MrJonno » Fri Jan 11, 2013 2:43 pm

Far more interested in what the Chinese are doing, the real test of whether you can make a decent tank, aircraft or sub is whether you can make a laptop, tv or consumer electronics that people would actually buy. Something the Chinese certainly can do
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MrJonno wrote:Far more interested in what the Chinese are doing, the real test of whether you can make a decent tank, aircraft or sub is whether you can make a laptop, tv or consumer electronics that people would actually buy. Something the Chinese certainly can do

The Chinese are also becoming quite scary. Resource tensions are becoming a source of policy change that may drive China into an expansionist mode. We may already be seeing some of this.
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Cormac wrote:
MrJonno wrote:Far more interested in what the Chinese are doing, the real test of whether you can make a decent tank, aircraft or sub is whether you can make a laptop, tv or consumer electronics that people would actually buy. Something the Chinese certainly can do

The Chinese are also becoming quite scary. Resource tensions are becoming a source of policy change that may drive China into an expansionist mode. We may already be seeing some of this.
Aye. Article in the Grauniad earlier this week highlighting how Japan and China are investing heavily in drones and predicting some kind of robotic confrontation over some of the contested islands.
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Post by Svartalf » Fri Jan 11, 2013 4:19 pm

rEvolutionist wrote:Any worrying concerns about Russia's increasing militarisation?
When you know who Yuri Dolgoruky was, the very dedication is rather disquieting.
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Post by Cormac » Fri Jan 11, 2013 4:21 pm

Clinton Huxley wrote:
Cormac wrote:
MrJonno wrote:Far more interested in what the Chinese are doing, the real test of whether you can make a decent tank, aircraft or sub is whether you can make a laptop, tv or consumer electronics that people would actually buy. Something the Chinese certainly can do

The Chinese are also becoming quite scary. Resource tensions are becoming a source of policy change that may drive China into an expansionist mode. We may already be seeing some of this.
Aye. Article in the Grauniad earlier this week highlighting how Japan and China are investing heavily in drones and predicting some kind of robotic confrontation over some of the contested islands.
And then there's their behaviour in Africa. And they seem to have lots of border disputes these days.
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Re: Russia has a new boomer

Post by MrJonno » Fri Jan 11, 2013 4:36 pm

Not too worried about the Chinese, its a bit hard to sell lots of stuff to people if at the same time you are bombing your customers
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Post by Cormac » Fri Jan 11, 2013 4:58 pm

MrJonno wrote:Not too worried about the Chinese, its a bit hard to sell lots of stuff to people if at the same time you are bombing your customers
The Chinese don't necessarily work that way.

And, in any case, they'd be more concerned about selling to Europe and the USA, as opposed to their nearest neighbours.
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Post by Clinton Huxley » Fri Jan 11, 2013 5:23 pm

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MrJonno wrote:Not too worried about the Chinese, its a bit hard to sell lots of stuff to people if at the same time you are bombing your customers
The Chinese don't necessarily work that way.

And, in any case, they'd be more concerned about selling to Europe and the USA, as opposed to their nearest neighbours.
And who knows what their actual defence budget is. It is certainly more than they pretend it is.
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Re: Russia has a new boomer

Post by Coito ergo sum » Fri Jan 11, 2013 5:30 pm

rEvolutionist wrote:Any worrying concerns about Russia's increasing militarisation?
Definitely not. It's the US you have to worry about. :coffee:

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Re: Russia has a new boomer

Post by Jason » Fri Jan 11, 2013 5:32 pm

MrJonno wrote:Modern Russian technology versus the ice , my bets are on hydrogen bonding
You have no idea what you're talking about.

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