Argentina opens up second front in Falklands Kerfuffle

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Post by MrJonno » Fri Jan 04, 2013 3:02 pm

When British citizens get attacked, public opinion tends not to favour the attackers. We get a bit upset.

Thats not to say some people would rather they werent British citizens (like me), but they are and we have a responsibility to defend them
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Post by Coito ergo sum » Fri Jan 04, 2013 3:43 pm

MrJonno wrote:When British citizens get attacked, public opinion tends not to favour the attackers. We get a bit upset.

Thats not to say some people would rather they werent British citizens (like me), but they are and we have a responsibility to defend them
Why would you "rather" they not be British citizens?

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Post by MrJonno » Fri Jan 04, 2013 3:59 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:
MrJonno wrote:When British citizens get attacked, public opinion tends not to favour the attackers. We get a bit upset.

Thats not to say some people would rather they werent British citizens (like me), but they are and we have a responsibility to defend them
Why would you "rather" they not be British citizens?
Because they are 1000's of miles away and cost a fortune to defend (if there really is oil there its a different matter) . If I could go back in time and make sure we never discovered the place in the first place I would.

Same for Northern Ireland , England, Wales (and Scotland to a lesser extent) are one of the most non-religious countries in the world, do you seriously think we want all those religious issues over there. We have a responsibility to protect 'law abiding' citizens even if they are religious and bigotted. As soon as the Catholics become a majority there and vote to join Ireland most of us will be waving them off
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Post by Coito ergo sum » Fri Jan 04, 2013 4:51 pm

MrJonno wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
MrJonno wrote:When British citizens get attacked, public opinion tends not to favour the attackers. We get a bit upset.

Thats not to say some people would rather they werent British citizens (like me), but they are and we have a responsibility to defend them
Why would you "rather" they not be British citizens?
Because they are 1000's of miles away and cost a fortune to defend (if there really is oil there its a different matter) . If I could go back in time and make sure we never discovered the place in the first place I would.
Just sell it to Argentina,then. Give the Islanders the option to move to another British piece of land, or become Argentines. Fuck 'em.

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Post by MrJonno » Fri Jan 04, 2013 8:34 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:
MrJonno wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
MrJonno wrote:When British citizens get attacked, public opinion tends not to favour the attackers. We get a bit upset.

Thats not to say some people would rather they werent British citizens (like me), but they are and we have a responsibility to defend them
Why would you "rather" they not be British citizens?
Because they are 1000's of miles away and cost a fortune to defend (if there really is oil there its a different matter) . If I could go back in time and make sure we never discovered the place in the first place I would.
Just sell it to Argentina,then. Give the Islanders the option to move to another British piece of land, or become Argentines. Fuck 'em.

I would offer the natives in the Falkland Islands a million pounds each ( 2 billion in total) to vote to become part of Argentina. It would be highly cost effective and I bet the islanders would go for it however I suspect the British public wouldnt be too impressed
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Post by Svartalf » Fri Jan 04, 2013 9:14 pm

and if there's all that oil and gas there? cost effective, eh?
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Post by MrJonno » Fri Jan 04, 2013 9:40 pm

Svartalf wrote:and if there's all that oil and gas there? cost effective, eh?

Different matter but if there really was that much I think we would be exploiting it by now
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Post by Svartalf » Fri Jan 04, 2013 9:47 pm

YOu know how long and costly sea prospection is? maybe you're already doing what's to be done.
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Post by MrJonno » Fri Jan 04, 2013 9:50 pm

Svartalf wrote:YOu know how long and costly sea prospection is? maybe you're already doing what's to be done.
I doubt its that easy to do in secret not that their would be any reason. I also suspect without Argentinan cooperation exploiting would be pretty impossible anyway
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Post by pErvinalia » Sat Jan 05, 2013 2:34 am

The simplest thing for the Argentineans to do would be to move their citizens back to the mainland and then refuse to trade with the island. Without Argentina trading with it, I doubt it could survive (I say this knowing nothing about the actual economy of the Falklands).
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Post by Jason » Sat Jan 05, 2013 10:22 am

It's a worthless little island. What's the fuss about? Really?

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Post by Cormac » Sat Jan 05, 2013 7:13 pm

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Post by Cormac » Sat Jan 05, 2013 7:17 pm

John_fi_Skye wrote:...and I'm sorry, Cormac, but I simply cannae agree with you about the Sun. It's an appalling organ, and surely none of us can have forgotten "Gotcha!", a gloating and despicable headline over the story of the violent deaths of several hundred people. Its front page of today comes across to me as similarly jingoistic. The politicians - for whom, as I've posted elsewhere, we pay more than enough - have to get round the table, sort the matter out, and make sure there is no loss of life through stupid nineteenth-century hegemonistic attitudes. If wanting strenuous efforts to be made for such loss of life to be avoided makes me an ethnic cleanser, then I'm an ethnic cleanser.

John - jaypers, I know you're not an ethnic cleanser, but I do think capitulation to military expansionists often ends that way.

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John_fi_Skye wrote:...and I'm sorry, Cormac, but I simply cannae agree with you about the Sun. It's an appalling organ, and surely none of us can have forgotten "Gotcha!", a gloating and despicable headline over the story of the violent deaths of several hundred people. Its front page of today comes across to me as similarly jingoistic. The politicians - for whom, as I've posted elsewhere, we pay more than enough - have to get round the table, sort the matter out, and make sure there is no loss of life through stupid nineteenth-century hegemonistic attitudes. If wanting strenuous efforts to be made for such loss of life to be avoided makes me an ethnic cleanser, then I'm an ethnic cleanser.

John - jaypers, I know you're not an ethnic cleanser, but I do think capitulation to military expansionists often ends that way.

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Post by Cormac » Sat Jan 05, 2013 7:21 pm

MrJonno wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
MrJonno wrote:When British citizens get attacked, public opinion tends not to favour the attackers. We get a bit upset.

Thats not to say some people would rather they werent British citizens (like me), but they are and we have a responsibility to defend them
Why would you "rather" they not be British citizens?
Because they are 1000's of miles away and cost a fortune to defend (if there really is oil there its a different matter) . If I could go back in time and make sure we never discovered the place in the first place I would.

Same for Northern Ireland , England, Wales (and Scotland to a lesser extent) are one of the most non-religious countries in the world, do you seriously think we want all those religious issues over there. We have a responsibility to protect 'law abiding' citizens even if they are religious and bigotted. As soon as the Catholics become a majority there and vote to join Ireland most of us will be waving them off

Characterising Northern Ireland as a religious issue is to seriously misunderstand it.
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