"Makers vs. Takers" and why it's dangerous

[Kristie]

That's pretty shocking. I don't know how anyone can feel like that towards disadvantaged people. If that's not sociopathic, then it's certainly dangerously anti-social. Disgusting.

While I don't agree with him, I know it's not a decision he made just because he likes being an ass. I think rational people can hold the same beliefs as Drew, and I know for a fact they can be wonderful, caring people, like Drew.

[Kristie]

Anti-social eh? That's a new one.

Shut up. I was trying to say something nice about you.

[pErvinalia]

That's pretty shocking. I don't know how anyone can feel like that towards disadvantaged people. If that's not sociopathic, then it's certainly dangerously anti-social. Disgusting.

While I don't agree with him, I know it's not a decision he made just because he likes being an ass. I think rational people can hold the same beliefs as Drew, and I know for a fact they can be wonderful, caring people, like Drew.

Caring for his own, but nobody else. Anti-social. And dangerously so, if he practices what he preaches.

[pErvinalia]

Anti-social eh? That's a new one.

What, are you trying to argue that you aren't anti-social? Perhaps I should have more accurately said anti-society (although, i'd argue they are the same thing).

[Kristie]

That's pretty shocking. I don't know how anyone can feel like that towards disadvantaged people. If that's not sociopathic, then it's certainly dangerously anti-social. Disgusting.

While I don't agree with him, I know it's not a decision he made just because he likes being an ass. I think rational people can hold the same beliefs as Drew, and I know for a fact they can be wonderful, caring people, like Drew.

Caring for his own, but nobody else. Anti-social. And dangerously so, if he practices what he preaches.

I think that's reaching. Caring for every poor person in the world is not a prerequisite for a good person.

[Kristie]

Anti-social eh? That's a new one.

What, are you trying to argue that you aren't anti-social? Perhaps I should have more accurately said anti-society (although, i'd argue they are the same thing).

He was the opposite of anti-social at the last meet!

[pErvinalia]

That's pretty shocking. I don't know how anyone can feel like that towards disadvantaged people. If that's not sociopathic, then it's certainly dangerously anti-social. Disgusting.

While I don't agree with him, I know it's not a decision he made just because he likes being an ass. I think rational people can hold the same beliefs as Drew, and I know for a fact they can be wonderful, caring people, like Drew.

Caring for his own, but nobody else. Anti-social. And dangerously so, if he practices what he preaches.

I think that's reaching. Caring for every poor person in the world is not a prerequisite for a good person.

But actively hating the most disadvantaged would seem to me to preclude someone from being a truly good person. He might be nice to his own, but pretty much everyone is nice to their own. Anyway, I feel a bit strange discussing Drews worst points with someone else while he's sitting in the room. If he wants to defend himself, then I might say more.

[Drewish]

It's tough to defend yourself when somebody who doesn't know you has filled in your life already.

[Kristie]

That's pretty shocking. I don't know how anyone can feel like that towards disadvantaged people. If that's not sociopathic, then it's certainly dangerously anti-social. Disgusting.

While I don't agree with him, I know it's not a decision he made just because he likes being an ass. I think rational people can hold the same beliefs as Drew, and I know for a fact they can be wonderful, caring people, like Drew.

Caring for his own, but nobody else. Anti-social. And dangerously so, if he practices what he preaches.

I think that's reaching. Caring for every poor person in the world is not a prerequisite for a good person.

But actively hating the most disadvantaged would seem to me to preclude someone from being a truly good person. He might be nice to his own, but pretty much everyone is nice to their own. Anyway, I feel a bit strange discussing Drews worst points with someone else while he's sitting in the room. If he wants to defend himself, then I might say more.

I would think actively hating required more than voting Libertarian and saying to a forum 'fuck poor people'. Sounds more like passively hating.
Either way, think of it more like discussing the beliefs of some people rather than this specific person.
Also, he's put a lot of thought into his beliefs, so therefore doesn't feel the need to defend them....I think. I'm sure he will correct me if I'm wrong.

[Drewish]

Why would putting thought into my beliefs men I wouldn't defend them? THough the rest of your point stands. But really I can defend myself. Thank you though, for making it clear that simply insulting me is not a convincing argument to anyone else.

[pErvinalia]

Do you understand how the sorts of actions and beliefs that flow forward from a statement like "fuck the poor!" can be harmful to both the poor and the general stability of society?

[Kristie]

Why would putting thought into my beliefs men I wouldn't defend them? THough the rest of your point stands. But really I can defend myself. Thank you though, for making it clear that simply insulting me is not a convincing argument to anyone else.

I am perfectly aware of how capable you are of defending yourself.
I didn't mean you wouldn't, I just know that if someone disagrees with me and I'm happy with the amount of time and thought I put into my beliefs, then if they just want to attack, it's not worth arguing. Kinda like how I don't let our political and social discussions turn into arguments.

[Drewish]

I'll come back to this tomorrow. RIght now It's late and some shit just came up.

[Kristie]

I'll come back to this tomorrow. RIght now It's late and some shit just came up.

[pErvinalia]

Bad curry...