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An independent Ireland?

Post by Drewish » Sat Oct 27, 2012 4:00 am

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Post by Bella Fortuna » Sat Oct 27, 2012 4:00 am

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Post by Jason » Sun Oct 28, 2012 7:09 pm

Deal: They may keep their drech 'Whiskey' provided they continue exporting Guinness and Kilkenny.

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Post by Blind groper » Sun Oct 28, 2012 10:56 pm

The most important export from Ireland is humor. Keep the funnies coming, and I love the Irish.
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Post by Pensioner » Sun Oct 28, 2012 11:05 pm

Blind groper wrote:The most important export from Ireland is humor. Keep the funnies coming, and I love the Irish.

I married one, funny i dont think so. :nervous:
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Post by mistermack » Sun Oct 28, 2012 11:13 pm

I prefer Irish whiskey in general to scotch. Not that I'm particularly fussy, but as a rule, I like the usual brands of Irish, or straight american rye.

From what I've read, there was very little interest in home rule in Ireland, until the savage crackdown by the british after the Easter rising.
If they had been restrained and civilised, there never would have been independence. The demand from the public wasn't there originally.
From what I remember, it was executing that sick guy, propped up in a chair, that filled the country with disgust.
And the antics of the Black and Tans. But I don't know if that came later.
But it was generally a self-inflicted own-goal by the british, that grew the demand for independence.
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Post by Jason » Sun Oct 28, 2012 11:28 pm

I drink Whisky, not Whiskey. That's Canadian Whisky or 'Rye' to the rest of the world. Gibson's Finest as a general rule. But given the choice, I'll choose an Irish ale over a Canadian ale any day. Especially if the Irish ale is Kilkenny (Guinness will do in a pinch).

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Post by Cormac » Mon Oct 29, 2012 3:28 pm

mistermack wrote:I prefer Irish whiskey in general to scotch. Not that I'm particularly fussy, but as a rule, I like the usual brands of Irish, or straight american rye.

From what I've read, there was very little interest in home rule in Ireland, until the savage crackdown by the british after the Easter rising.
If they had been restrained and civilised, there never would have been independence. The demand from the public wasn't there originally.
From what I remember, it was executing that sick guy, propped up in a chair, that filled the country with disgust.
And the antics of the Black and Tans. But I don't know if that came later.
But it was generally a self-inflicted own-goal by the british, that grew the demand for independence.
You'll have missed out on one of the main issues of parliamentary democracy through which Irish nationalists tried to gain independence culminating with the passing of Home Rule legislation ("suspended" for the "duration" of WW1). A period of parliamentary democracy preceded by armed liberation insurrection, preceded by the famine, armed insurrection, Daniel O'Connell parliamentary nationalism, 1798, and so on and so on.

1916 itself was initially unpopular with some parts of the Dublin population - chiefly wives of British soldiers and those who benefited from the colonial raping of Ireland. Liberation and freedom was always part of the public conscience - even before there was an Irish national consciousness.

It is a lie to inflate the initial opposition of Dubliners to suggest that there was no desire for liberty and self-determination.

Even the Irish Volunteers who joined the British Army did so believing that they were fighting that small nations might be free, naively not realising that such small nations did not include Ireland.

It was clear that the political winds were turning against even the limited home rule that was on the statute books. This was clear in the authorities collusion in the importation of a large supply of arms for the UVF - a loyalist force threatening treasonous insurrection to fight against any attempt to implement Home Rule.
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Post by Animavore » Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:17 pm

This thread oppresses me :hmph:
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Animavore wrote:This thread oppresses me :hmph:
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Post by Animavore » Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:53 pm

Bella Fortuna wrote:
Animavore wrote:This thread oppresses me :hmph:
You deserve it.
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Re: An independent Ireland?

Post by redunderthebed » Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:54 pm

PordFrefect wrote:Deal: They may keep their drech 'Whiskey' provided they continue exporting Guinness and Kilkenny.
Irish whiskey is awesome especially tullamore dew (and their 12 yo is nom too) and jameson 12 yo. :drool:
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Re: An independent Ireland?

Post by Blind groper » Mon Oct 29, 2012 8:11 pm

I have to agree with Red.
Jamiesons and Tullamore Dew are my favourites. They are also reasonably priced, which sets them apart from the very nice scotch whiskeys.
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Re: An independent Ireland?

Post by devogue » Mon Oct 29, 2012 8:25 pm

Cormac wrote:
mistermack wrote:I prefer Irish whiskey in general to scotch. Not that I'm particularly fussy, but as a rule, I like the usual brands of Irish, or straight american rye.

From what I've read, there was very little interest in home rule in Ireland, until the savage crackdown by the british after the Easter rising.
If they had been restrained and civilised, there never would have been independence. The demand from the public wasn't there originally.
From what I remember, it was executing that sick guy, propped up in a chair, that filled the country with disgust.
And the antics of the Black and Tans. But I don't know if that came later.
But it was generally a self-inflicted own-goal by the british, that grew the demand for independence.
You'll have missed out on one of the main issues of parliamentary democracy through which Irish nationalists tried to gain independence culminating with the passing of Home Rule legislation ("suspended" for the "duration" of WW1). A period of parliamentary democracy preceded by armed liberation insurrection, preceded by the famine, armed insurrection, Daniel O'Connell parliamentary nationalism, 1798, and so on and so on.

1916 itself was initially unpopular with some parts of the Dublin population - chiefly wives of British soldiers and those who benefited from the colonial raping of Ireland. Liberation and freedom was always part of the public conscience - even before there was an Irish national consciousness.

It is a lie to inflate the initial opposition of Dubliners to suggest that there was no desire for liberty and self-determination.

Even the Irish Volunteers who joined the British Army did so believing that they were fighting that small nations might be free, naively not realising that such small nations did not include Ireland.

It was clear that the political winds were turning against even the limited home rule that was on the statute books. This was clear in the authorities collusion in the importation of a large supply of arms for the UVF - a loyalist force threatening treasonous insurrection to fight against any attempt to implement Home Rule.
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Re: An independent Ireland?

Post by Cormac » Mon Oct 29, 2012 8:37 pm

devogue wrote:
Cormac wrote:
mistermack wrote:I prefer Irish whiskey in general to scotch. Not that I'm particularly fussy, but as a rule, I like the usual brands of Irish, or straight american rye.

From what I've read, there was very little interest in home rule in Ireland, until the savage crackdown by the british after the Easter rising.
If they had been restrained and civilised, there never would have been independence. The demand from the public wasn't there originally.
From what I remember, it was executing that sick guy, propped up in a chair, that filled the country with disgust.
And the antics of the Black and Tans. But I don't know if that came later.
But it was generally a self-inflicted own-goal by the british, that grew the demand for independence.
You'll have missed out on one of the main issues of parliamentary democracy through which Irish nationalists tried to gain independence culminating with the passing of Home Rule legislation ("suspended" for the "duration" of WW1). A period of parliamentary democracy preceded by armed liberation insurrection, preceded by the famine, armed insurrection, Daniel O'Connell parliamentary nationalism, 1798, and so on and so on.

1916 itself was initially unpopular with some parts of the Dublin population - chiefly wives of British soldiers and those who benefited from the colonial raping of Ireland. Liberation and freedom was always part of the public conscience - even before there was an Irish national consciousness.

It is a lie to inflate the initial opposition of Dubliners to suggest that there was no desire for liberty and self-determination.

Even the Irish Volunteers who joined the British Army did so believing that they were fighting that small nations might be free, naively not realising that such small nations did not include Ireland.

It was clear that the political winds were turning against even the limited home rule that was on the statute books. This was clear in the authorities collusion in the importation of a large supply of arms for the UVF - a loyalist force threatening treasonous insurrection to fight against any attempt to implement Home Rule.
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