You suck.Nibbler wrote:I don't know what to feel about that.Kristie wrote:Some woman posted a comment on Maher's page about how she's an undecided and this debate made her decide not to vote for Obama. Ridiculous. She was probably already going to vote for Romney. Undecideds are a joke.
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I've only voted in one election like when I was 18 or something. I remember voting for the Conservative party in Canada. Now, I couldn't be arsed to vote and my riding that I live in in Canada or (district as you Merkins say) is represented by NDP, which is the farthest left popular party.
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I know pretty much nothing about Canadian politics. You vote Conservative?Nibbler wrote:I've only voted in one election like when I was 18 or something. I remember voting for the Conservative party in Canada. Now, I couldn't be arsed to vote and my riding that I live in in Canada or (district as you Merkins say) is represented by NDP, which is the farthest left popular party.

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Biden is taking some criticisms for laughing too much throughout the debate.Kristie wrote:You suck.Nibbler wrote:I don't know what to feel about that.Kristie wrote:Some woman posted a comment on Maher's page about how she's an undecided and this debate made her decide not to vote for Obama. Ridiculous. She was probably already going to vote for Romney. Undecideds are a joke.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1012/82313.html
I think that summed it upMSNBC’s S.E. Cupp: “Biden needs to laugh a little less through the Libya, Middle East, nuclear Iran segment.”

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I did--once. Not really the same thing as American conservative. I grew up in Alberta, which is the equivalent of Texas, so I had to.. 

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I agree, he should've kept a straight face more. But, can you blame him? Ryan is a joke!Tyrannical wrote:Biden is taking some criticisms for laughing too much throughout the debate.Kristie wrote:You suck.Nibbler wrote:I don't know what to feel about that.Kristie wrote:Some woman posted a comment on Maher's page about how she's an undecided and this debate made her decide not to vote for Obama. Ridiculous. She was probably already going to vote for Romney. Undecideds are a joke.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1012/82313.html
I think that summed it upMSNBC’s S.E. Cupp: “Biden needs to laugh a little less through the Libya, Middle East, nuclear Iran segment.”
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Nibbler wrote: so I had to..
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Only if you get Obama off the ticket.Wumbologist wrote:Can we get Biden to stand in for Obama in the next two debates?
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She was probably Gen X and couldn't stand Biden's obnoxious, overbearing, boomer debate manner.Kristie wrote:Some woman posted a comment on Maher's page about how she's an undecided and this debate made her decide not to vote for Obama. Ridiculous. She was probably already going to vote for Romney. Undecideds are a joke.
Of course, us boomers see our manner as confident and assertive rather than obnoxious and overbearing, but that's probably because we're not on the receiving end.
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Hey, constant laughing and interrupting is an excellent debate tactic when all the facts are on the other guy's side.Tyrannical wrote:Biden is taking some criticisms for laughing too much throughout the debate.
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Is that how democracy works.Wumbologist wrote:Nibbler wrote: so I had to..
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He just wasn't making them up out of whole cloth, like Biden was. I almost spit out my drink when Biden said that he and Obama were told by the intelligence community that the video caused the Benghazi attacks, and that nobody asked for more security....lol... a lie told confidently is still a lie.Kristie wrote:He appears to be lacking in confidence and facts.Red Celt wrote:This is the first time that I've seen Ryan. Very unimpressed.
On security -- Eric Nordstrom, former top security official in Libya, testified before Congress this week that he was criticized for seeking more security. Charlene R. Lamb, a deputy assistant secretary for diplomatic security, told Congress she refused requests for more security in Benghazi because the agency wanted to train Libyans to protect the mission.
And, it was the White House that concocted the "video protests" nonsense. http://thehill.com/blogs/global-affairs ... ibya-story and http://hosted2.ap.org/APDEFAULT/3d281c1 ... 2e49a0a2ff
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I gave the nod to Biden last night, but some polls are more even about it: http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/20 ... -biden-44/ CNN's poll actually gave Ryan the victory, which shocked me a bit.
In my view, Biden did a good job of making Ryan look like the inexperienced kid trying to talk to the adult about issues....
In my view, Biden did a good job of making Ryan look like the inexperienced kid trying to talk to the adult about issues....
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Warren Dew wrote:Hey, constant laughing and interrupting is an excellent debate tactic when all the facts are on the other guy's side.Tyrannical wrote:Biden is taking some criticisms for laughing too much throughout the debate.

Still can't own up to the concept of Ryan being a pathological liar? Well, if his speech at the RNC didn't convince you and last night didn't either, why even watch these things? You're not going to be swayed by facts.
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