2012 Vice Presidential Debate - October 11 - Biden v. Ryan

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Post by Gerald McGrew » Wed Oct 10, 2012 11:18 pm

"Prosperity through freedom"?

I'll take childish empty platitudes for $500 Alex.
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Post by rasetsu » Thu Oct 11, 2012 5:59 am




The day a presidential or vice presidential candidate steps up to a debate, opens with "YOU SUCK. FOOLZ DROOL THE KING ROOLZ" steps aside, does an endzone dance and then marches out with a cohort of sycophants wearing spangly bling, and chanting that same refrain — that's the day I get excited about voting again.



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Post by devogue » Thu Oct 11, 2012 6:20 am

rasetsu wrote:The day a presidential or vice presidential candidate steps up to a debate, opens with "YOU SUCK. FOOLZ DROOL THE KING ROOLZ" steps aside, does an endzone dance and then marches out with a cohort of sycophants wearing spangly bling, and chanting that same refrain — that's the day I get excited about voting again.
At first I laughed at this, then I chuckled a little, then I smiled, then I smiled and sighed. Then I thought....yes :ask:

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Re: 2012 Vice Presidential Debate - October 11 - Biden v. Ry

Post by Coito ergo sum » Thu Oct 11, 2012 12:33 pm

Biden might actually do that..., man...

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Post by Coito ergo sum » Thu Oct 11, 2012 12:35 pm

Gerald McGrew wrote:"Prosperity through freedom"?

I'll take childish empty platitudes for $500 Alex.
I Hope you Change your mind about that. It's not the concept of empty platitudes you really object to. You just go Forward, and pick and choose the ones you like.


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Post by Gerald McGrew » Thu Oct 11, 2012 4:08 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:I Hope you Change your mind about that. It's not the concept of empty platitudes you really object to. You just go Forward, and pick and choose the ones you like.
I didn't like "Hope and Change" either. But it was a campaign slogan...something to put on posters and bumper stickers. However now, Romney is using "prosperity through freedom" as a substitute for actual substance.
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Re: 2012 Vice Presidential Debate - October 11 - Biden v. Ry

Post by Ian » Thu Oct 11, 2012 4:12 pm

Hope was kinda silly. Can't argue much about Change and Forward as slogans though. If Obama hadn't changed anything the Republicans wouldn't have spent the last three years throwing themselves into such hysterics. And Romney can't possibly use Forward for his campaign, especially as a challenger. Makes no sense.

"Prosperity through freedom" though? Sounds cute, but it implies that freedom is something currently lacking in America, which he will fix once he's in office. I beg to differ.

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Re: 2012 Vice Presidential Debate - October 11 - Biden v. Ry

Post by Wumbologist » Thu Oct 11, 2012 4:27 pm

As featured recently on the Daily Show:


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Post by Drewish » Thu Oct 11, 2012 4:38 pm

Wumbologist wrote:As featured recently on the Daily Show:

That pretty accurately describes Obama and Romney.
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Post by Coito ergo sum » Thu Oct 11, 2012 4:39 pm

Gerald McGrew wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:I Hope you Change your mind about that. It's not the concept of empty platitudes you really object to. You just go Forward, and pick and choose the ones you like.
I didn't like "Hope and Change" either. But it was a campaign slogan...something to put on posters and bumper stickers. However now, Romney is using "prosperity through freedom" as a substitute for actual substance.
Is it the idea of prosperity that bothers you, or just freedom?

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Re: 2012 Vice Presidential Debate - October 11 - Biden v. Ry

Post by Ian » Thu Oct 11, 2012 4:41 pm

I'm freaked out by both concepts, naturally. :panic:

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Post by Coito ergo sum » Thu Oct 11, 2012 4:57 pm

I like unspecified Change. Don't you want Change?

What Change? Change to what?

Don't ask.

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Post by Gerald McGrew » Thu Oct 11, 2012 6:48 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:Is it the idea of prosperity that bothers you, or just freedom?
LOL...nice try. "Gosh, you must be against prosperity and/or freedom!!"

Again, it's the fact that this empty catchphrase is being used as a substitute for actual substance. If Romney had said, "I'm for prosperity through freedom. Now here's what I specifically mean by that..." that would be worth talking about.
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Post by Wumbologist » Thu Oct 11, 2012 8:59 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:I like unspecified Change. Don't you want Change?

What Change? Change to what?

Don't ask.

Change to Medicare and Social Security that won't effect coverage but will magically make it cheaper! Change to Obamacare that will keep all the stuff people like, and somehow make it cost less! Change in the deficit by cutting funding to PBS! :funny:

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