Would you support physical castration for sex offenders?

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Post by Beatsong » Thu Sep 20, 2012 11:55 pm

rasetsu wrote:Anytime that mayhem is involved, I think you've crossed the line into cruel and unusual punishment. And simply offering it as a mitigation in plea deals is no better. The same goes for chemical castration and its questionable ethics. Whenever sex crimes are involved, and particularly sex crimes involving children, people's humanity just seems to go out the window. We contemplate punishments for such offenses that we'd be insane to advocate for any other offenses.
Except that noone seems to be focusing on castration as "punishment". It's about actually solving the problem, where all other solutions seem to fail.

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Post by orpheus » Fri Sep 21, 2012 1:03 am

Nibbler wrote:What if it's a female sex offender? Take out her ovaries? :think:
Three more pages and nobody has addressed this? It's a hell of an important point.
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Post by Blind groper » Fri Sep 21, 2012 1:11 am

orpheus wrote:
Nibbler wrote:What if it's a female sex offender? Take out her ovaries? :think:
Three more pages and nobody has addressed this? It's a hell of an important point.
I would lock her up in a cell with me for a few months. She deserves what happens to her!
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Post by Svartalf » Fri Sep 21, 2012 5:07 am

orpheus wrote:
Nibbler wrote:What if it's a female sex offender? Take out her ovaries? :think:
Three more pages and nobody has addressed this? It's a hell of an important point.
So, do we hysterectomize those or do the reverse and keep'em barefoot and preggers in the kitchen (but no keeping your kids either)
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Post by orpheus » Fri Sep 21, 2012 5:10 am

See, it's interesting that this has been a serious discussion - yet to the question of female sex offenders, the only responses have so far been humorous.

Seriously, any serious ideas?
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Post by SteveB » Fri Sep 21, 2012 5:17 am

Like I already said. Removal of the ovaries. Primary female sex hormone--estrogen--is mostly produced there. That should curb sexual desires--at least a bit.
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Post by SteveB » Fri Sep 21, 2012 5:19 am

I suddenly feel like a Nazi. :nazi:
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Post by JimC » Fri Sep 21, 2012 5:22 am

Nibbler wrote:I suddenly feel like a Nazi. :nazi:
Dammit, so do I!

I've been trying for months to give them up! :lay:
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Post by Blind groper » Fri Sep 21, 2012 5:26 am

orpheus wrote:
Seriously, any serious ideas?
The question deserves little more than jokes. Female sex offenders (of any seriousness) are few and far between.

Such behaviour, when it occurs (rarely) is generally of weird emotional causes - not hormones. So any treatment would be behavioural, not surgical. Actually, treatment generally consists of time in prison. I have no idea whether that reduces reoffending or not.
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Post by SteveB » Fri Sep 21, 2012 5:45 am

Blind groper wrote:
orpheus wrote:
Seriously, any serious ideas?
The question deserves little more than jokes. Female sex offenders (of any seriousness) are few and far between.

Such behaviour, when it occurs (rarely) is generally of weird emotional causes - not hormones. So any treatment would be behavioural, not surgical. Actually, treatment generally consists of time in prison. I have no idea whether that reduces reoffending or not.
I'm going to bed right now, so I can't really research this at all, but you're right when it comes to rape (it's like 99% male offenders vs 1% female) but when it comes to pedophilia I think the gender is ratio is more even. I think this thread quickly changed to the castration of pedophiles exclusively rather than just rapists. So the question of whether female pedophiles should be "castrated' just the same as males is interesting and is not really a joke. Otherwise you're putting women up in some pedestal by not letting them be criticized.

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Post by JimC » Fri Sep 21, 2012 8:50 am

I hope we're not going to include as sex offenders those women who seduce willing teenage boys...

If teachers, they should certainly be sacked, but that should be the extent of it...
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Post by FBM » Fri Sep 21, 2012 9:08 am

Gonna be tricky to castrate them, tho... :ask:
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Post by JimC » Fri Sep 21, 2012 9:10 am

FBM wrote:Gonna be tricky to castrate them, tho... :ask:
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Re: Would you support physical castration for sex offenders?

Post by mistermack » Fri Sep 21, 2012 3:10 pm

If you think about it, it's a dishonest question.
There is no system in existences anywhere that gives 100% true verdicts in sex offences, or any other type of crime.

So a more honest question would be " would you support physical castration for those CONVICTED of sex offences ? "
And to make it more honest still " would you support physical catration of a youth for having sex with a girl who was just one day under the age of consent? "

Because the original question covers everything, without actually setting it out.
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Post by Warren Dew » Fri Sep 21, 2012 5:47 pm

JimC wrote:I hope we're not going to include as sex offenders those women who seduce willing teenage boys...

If teachers, they should certainly be sacked, but that should be the extent of it...
Should women who seduce willing teenage boys be treated differently from men who seduce willing teenage girls?

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