He raised the national debt in 3.5 years more than Bush did in 8. As far as debt is concerned, Obama is the all-time champeeen.Gawdzilla Sama wrote:I note you chose your start point carefully.Coito ergo sum wrote:Tell me more about fiscal responsibility....![]()
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Since the so-called recovery began in June 2009, the median household income has fallen by 4.8 percent. That’s more than it fell during the recession (2.6 percent).-
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Cooking the books? And where, pray tell, did Bush leave us? In the shitter. It's Hoover/Roosevelt time again.Coito ergo sum wrote:He raised the national debt in 3.5 years more than Bush did in 8. As far as debt is concerned, Obama is the all-time champeeen.Gawdzilla Sama wrote:I note you chose your start point carefully.Coito ergo sum wrote:Tell me more about fiscal responsibility....![]()
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No. He increased the national debtor more in 3.5 years than in all 8 years of the Bush Administration. This is basic stuff, 'zilla. http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162- ... nder-bush/Gawdzilla Sama wrote:Cooking the books? .Coito ergo sum wrote:He raised the national debt in 3.5 years more than Bush did in 8. As far as debt is concerned, Obama is the all-time champeeen.Gawdzilla Sama wrote:I note you chose your start point carefully.Coito ergo sum wrote:Tell me more about fiscal responsibility....![]()
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Again, you're cherry-picking. WHY did Obama have a crisis upon entering office? Because Bush fucked each and every American by remote control. You should be ashamed of yourself for aiding and abetting that process.
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As Ian has pointed out several times, the recession has been over for 3 years. The crisis was handled by Bush with the TARP and bailouts (which the Democrats nearly unanimously supported, by the way)Gawdzilla Sama wrote:Again, you're cherry-picking. WHY did Obama have a crisis upon entering office?
Your support for Obama disqualifies you from pointing fingers.Gawdzilla Sama wrote: Because Bush fucked each and every American by remote control. You should be ashamed of yourself for aiding and abetting that process.


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$1.413 trillion
2010
$1.293 trillion
2011
$1.296 trillion
2012
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Bush screwed up the country. You are yelling at Obama for not fixing it fast enough, while the Republicans fight everything tooth and nail. It is YOUR fault the country is in the shitter. Can you live with that? Evidently you can.
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And, Obama has increased it more than Bush has, in 3.5 years, rather than 8. Shall we give him a chance to go for $20 trillion?PordFrefect wrote:And GWB raised it more than Clinton did in his 8 years. GWB nearly doubled the national debt in his tenure.
Clinton did pretty good, but even he increased the debt $200 billion a year, on average -- raising it from 4.9 to 5.7 trillion dollars. Bush's reign was bad relative to the debt, but I'm not defending that. I'm opposing that and the much worse spending under Obama.
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Gawdzilla Sama wrote:Bush screwed up the country. You are yelling at Obama for not fixing it fast enough making it worse, while the Republicans fight everything tooth and nail Democrats refuse to pass a budget, and spend like drunken sailors.

Your answer to overspending is to spend more, and you have the nerve to suggest that someone else is to blame? Your apathy in the face of fiscal irresponsibility is the reason the Democrats can just sign off on spending boondoggle after spending boondoggle.
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Nice try. But, as usual, your attempts at deflection simply highlight your inability to defend your support of a failed political philosophy.Coito ergo sum wrote:Gawdzilla Sama wrote:Bush screwed up the country. You are yelling at Obama for not fixing it fast enough making it worse, while the Republicans fight everything tooth and nail Democrats refuse to pass a budget, and spend like drunken sailors.
Your answer to overspending is to spend more, and you have the nerve to suggest that someone else is to blame? Your apathy in the face of fiscal irresponsibility is the reason the Democrats can just sign off on spending boondoggle after spending boondoggle.
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You absolve the current denizen of the White House, who has inhabited the edifice for going on four full years, of all responsibility for the state of affairs, and for even his own decisions, and you have the unmitigated gall to suggest that someone else is "deflecting?"Gawdzilla Sama wrote:Nice try. But, as usual, your attempts at deflection simply highlight your inability to defend your support of a failed political philosophy.Coito ergo sum wrote:Gawdzilla Sama wrote:Bush screwed up the country. You are yelling at Obama for not fixing it fast enough making it worse, while the Republicans fight everything tooth and nail Democrats refuse to pass a budget, and spend like drunken sailors.
Your answer to overspending is to spend more, and you have the nerve to suggest that someone else is to blame? Your apathy in the face of fiscal irresponsibility is the reason the Democrats can just sign off on spending boondoggle after spending boondoggle.

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