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by Coito ergo sum » Wed Aug 29, 2012 5:23 pm
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:Coito ergo sum wrote:Tell me more about fiscal responsibility....

I note you chose your start point carefully.

He raised the national debt in 3.5 years more than Bush did in 8. As far as debt is concerned, Obama is the all-time champeeen.

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by Coito ergo sum » Wed Aug 29, 2012 5:29 pm

Since the so-called recovery began in June 2009, the median household income has fallen by 4.8 percent. That’s more than it fell during the recession (2.6 percent).
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by Gawdzilla Sama » Wed Aug 29, 2012 5:32 pm
Coito ergo sum wrote:Gawdzilla Sama wrote:Coito ergo sum wrote:Tell me more about fiscal responsibility....

I note you chose your start point carefully.

He raised the national debt in 3.5 years more than Bush did in 8. As far as debt is concerned, Obama is the all-time champeeen.

Cooking the books? And where, pray tell, did Bush leave us? In the shitter. It's Hoover/Roosevelt time again.
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by Gawdzilla Sama » Wed Aug 29, 2012 5:33 pm
Coito ergo sum wrote:

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by Coito ergo sum » Wed Aug 29, 2012 5:38 pm
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:Coito ergo sum wrote:Gawdzilla Sama wrote:Coito ergo sum wrote:Tell me more about fiscal responsibility....

I note you chose your start point carefully.

He raised the national debt in 3.5 years more than Bush did in 8. As far as debt is concerned, Obama is the all-time champeeen.

Cooking the books? .
No. He increased the national debtor more in 3.5 years than in all 8 years of the Bush Administration. This is basic stuff, 'zilla.
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by Gawdzilla Sama » Wed Aug 29, 2012 5:43 pm
Again, you're cherry-picking. WHY did Obama have a crisis upon entering office? Because Bush fucked each and every American by remote control. You should be ashamed of yourself for aiding and abetting that process.
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by Jason » Wed Aug 29, 2012 5:43 pm

And GWB raised it more than Clinton did in his 8 years. GWB nearly doubled the national debt in his tenure.
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by Coito ergo sum » Wed Aug 29, 2012 5:51 pm
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:Again, you're cherry-picking. WHY did Obama have a crisis upon entering office?
As Ian has pointed out several times, the recession has been over for 3 years. The crisis was handled by Bush with the TARP and bailouts (which the Democrats nearly unanimously supported, by the way)
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Because Bush fucked each and every American by remote control. You should be ashamed of yourself for aiding and abetting that process.
Your support for Obama disqualifies you from pointing fingers.
Fiscal Year
Deficit
2009
$1.413 trillion
2010
$1.293 trillion
2011
$1.296 trillion
2012
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by Gawdzilla Sama » Wed Aug 29, 2012 5:52 pm
Bush screwed up the country. You are yelling at Obama for not fixing it fast enough, while the Republicans fight everything tooth and nail. It is YOUR fault the country is in the shitter. Can you live with that? Evidently you can.
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by Coito ergo sum » Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:19 pm
PordFrefect wrote:
And GWB raised it more than Clinton did in his 8 years. GWB nearly doubled the national debt in his tenure.
And, Obama has increased it more than Bush has, in 3.5 years, rather than 8. Shall we give him a chance to go for $20 trillion?
Clinton did pretty good, but even he increased the debt $200 billion a year, on average -- raising it from 4.9 to 5.7 trillion dollars. Bush's reign was bad relative to the debt, but I'm not defending that. I'm opposing that and the much worse spending under Obama.
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by Coito ergo sum » Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:22 pm
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:Bush screwed up the country. You are yelling at Obama for not fixing it fast enough making it worse, while the Republicans fight everything tooth and nail Democrats refuse to pass a budget, and spend like drunken sailors.
Your answer to overspending is to spend more, and you have the nerve to suggest that someone else is to blame? Your apathy in the face of fiscal irresponsibility is the reason the Democrats can just sign off on spending boondoggle after spending boondoggle.
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by Gawdzilla Sama » Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:09 pm
Coito ergo sum wrote:Gawdzilla Sama wrote:Bush screwed up the country. You are yelling at Obama for not fixing it fast enough making it worse, while the Republicans fight everything tooth and nail Democrats refuse to pass a budget, and spend like drunken sailors.
Your answer to overspending is to spend more, and you have the nerve to suggest that someone else is to blame? Your apathy in the face of fiscal irresponsibility is the reason the Democrats can just sign off on spending boondoggle after spending boondoggle.
Nice try. But, as usual, your attempts at deflection simply highlight your inability to defend your support of a failed political philosophy.
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by Gawdzilla Sama » Wed Aug 29, 2012 10:12 pm
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by Coito ergo sum » Wed Aug 29, 2012 10:30 pm
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:Coito ergo sum wrote:Gawdzilla Sama wrote:Bush screwed up the country. You are yelling at Obama for not fixing it fast enough making it worse, while the Republicans fight everything tooth and nail Democrats refuse to pass a budget, and spend like drunken sailors.
Your answer to overspending is to spend more, and you have the nerve to suggest that someone else is to blame? Your apathy in the face of fiscal irresponsibility is the reason the Democrats can just sign off on spending boondoggle after spending boondoggle.
Nice try. But, as usual, your attempts at deflection simply highlight your inability to defend your support of a failed political philosophy.
You absolve the current denizen of the White House, who has inhabited the edifice for going on four full years, of all responsibility for the state of affairs, and for even his own decisions, and you have the unmitigated gall to suggest that someone else is "deflecting?"

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